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BuckwheatFlowers wrote:Also, while it's on my mind... anyone know anything about the sheepherder mentioned in the report? Wesher is an extremely rare name in this country. You'd think that would make it easy to find out info on the guy... but no. Also, I'd bet almost all my money (about $1.35) that Bingo wasn't his real first name.

I'm not saying he is a suspect, far from it. Just wondering who the guy was.

That's because his last name is spelled wrong in the report(they made alot of boo boos). His last name is ,WESNER not WESHER. He owns a ranch in another state today.

Here's a 1970 news article that mentions he and his wife:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8 ... 17,3753066

BuckwheatFlowers wrote:Anyone have a picture of the younger hunter they could pm me? I think I tracked him down to El Cerrito High School..... '59 ish. Can't find the yearbook online. Thanks.

I think he was born and raised in the Napa area his whole life, so if that school is not near Napa, it likely is not him. He would have graduated in 1959,give or take a year

LOL. I told you guys when I joined this site I'm not a very good internet researcher. The last two post illustrate that point perfectly.

Thx morf.

BuckwheatFlowers wrote:LOL. I told you guys when I joined this site I'm not a very good internet researcher. The last two post illustrate that point perfectly.

Thx morf.

No problem, you would think police would get names spelled right in the reports, but the reports are filled with errors

Just had another look on the pic of BLJ's back, lying on the autopsy table. All of the five bullets had entered her body on the right side of her back, mainly in the area of her shoulder and below. The point is that the pattern is not that close if the shots had been fired from less than e.g. 5 feet. It also appears as if her attacker stood right behind her and was right-handed or stood little towards her right side. This would comply with David standing to the most right, being shot in his head first, and then following five shots on BLJ while she had started to run away. Just wonder how much gunshot grain was found on her dress.

As the door was open..what if Z had approached the car and then forced BLJ to get out of the car at gunpoint, while ordering David to come over around the front side of their car? This would explain both victims dying/heading away from the right side of the Rambler, although David was originally seen on the driver's side..if he had held BLJ at gunpoint, then suddenly shot David into his head, it was easy to fire the five shots in such a narrow pattern (which isn't that narrow actually).

QT

morf13 wrote:

BuckwheatFlowers wrote:Anyone have a picture of the younger hunter they could pm me? I think I tracked him down to El Cerrito High School..... '59 ish. Can't find the yearbook online. Thanks.

I think he was born and raised in the Napa area his whole life, so if that school is not near Napa, it likely is not him. He would have graduated in 1959,give or take a year

Morf:

Thank you so much for being patient with me in my ability to do posts, due to physical limitations.

El Cerrito High School is, as one would suppose, in the city of El Cerrito in the east bay area on the Oakland side. Napa is about 40 miles north of El Cerrito.

Hope that helps.

Trainmaster

Found an interesting piece of information regarding the timeline of this sad december night:

My mother was a classmate of Betty Lou Jensen the first victim. She remembers that night well because her and David Faraday's little sister were waiting for them to pick them up from Rainbow Girls the night they were killed. They obviously never showed up. I am unsure if my mother is going to see the movie or not.

http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/and ... llers.html

Somehow I wonder how this may or may not be matching Betty Lou sister's statement. Didn't she actually mention that sort of a lot of young people had been up there at LHR? Instead they were expected to pick up friends as well as her sister? I guess this should have happened earlier than midnight, shouldn't it? This would mean that David and Betty Lou were supposed to leave quite soon after the incident..

There is also a neighbor comment as well as one from a roommate of Bryan:

I know Bryan Hartnell as a good friend, having roomed with him for over a year in law school folowing the incident. I remember seeing the scars on his back from the knife wounds. I remeember the quiet phone calls he would receive from time to time regarding the investigation. He did not volunteer much about it then as it appeared to be a very painful subject. He was and remains a genuinely good and decent person. I wish him the best.

Latter could be interesting as he might be able to provide additional information.

QT

Quicktrader wrote:Found an interesting piece of information regarding the timeline of this sad december night:

[i]My mother was a classmate of Betty Lou Jensen the first victim. She remembers that night well because her and David Faraday's little sister were waiting for them to pick them up from Rainbow Girls the night they were killed. They obviously never showed up. I am unsure if my mother is going to see the movie or not.[/i]

http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/and ... llers.html

Somehow I wonder how this may or may not be matching Betty Lou sister's statement. Didn't she actually mention that sort of a lot of young people had been up there at LHR? Instead they were expected to pick up friends as well as her sister? I guess this should have happened earlier than midnight, shouldn't it? This would mean that David and Betty Lou were supposed to leave quite soon after the incident..

There is also a neighbor comment as well as one from a roommate of Bryan:

I know Bryan Hartnell as a good friend, having roomed with him for over a year in law school folowing the incident. I remember seeing the scars on his back from the knife wounds. I remeember the quiet phone calls he would receive from time to time regarding the investigation. He did not volunteer much about it then as it appeared to be a very painful subject. He was and remains a genuinely good and decent person. I wish him the best.

Latter could be interesting as he might be able to provide additional information.

QT

The section I highlighted red...

It's a shame that this poster does not give the specific time that they had arranged for David to pick them up. I have said several times that i think it's odd that David & Betty are still parked up at Lake Herman at the gated entrance at 23:15 when, according to Betty's parents, Betty had been told to be back home by no later than 23:00. This was their first date, Betty first date she was ever allowed to go on with anyone, so you'd think not only Betty would endeavour to be back by the allocated time, but that David also, wanting to make a good and trustworthy first impression on The Jensen's, would have drove her back home by 11 the latest.

That's why I think there's a very good chance that David and Betty were not out there post 11pm of their own free will and Zodiac may have possibly been holding them against their will. I know this isn't a popular idea, but I just can't help but think Z was out there on foot, and had simply walked up to their rambler and let himself into the back seat and ordered them to act natural and stay calm. A passing witness did recall that as she passed the Rambler, the male in the driver seat seemed to place both hands on his steering wheel in response to her vehicles headlights hitting the rambler. May just be me personally, but that seems rather odd and either the reaction of a nervous Faraday to a passing car (which doesn't really make sense) or, the actions of someone possible ordered at gunpoint to place both hands on the wheel where the gunman can see them and make sure Faraday doesn't try and signal for help.
Just a theory the last bit.

Back to bullets...

Here is one of the the actual bullets used:



I still question if a .22 made this hole:

Well, actually ballistics may not be as straight forward as I first assumed....