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mike_r wrote:Hi-

Was this a well-kept secret or something? Was it publicized? I didn't notice discussion of this event until yesterday. Maybe it was for non-Zodiac researcher only? Is it even on Tom's site? Strange that an event like this flew under the radar.

Mike

The first I heard about it was in a google alert early yesterday afternoon. I sent the google alert to Tom, though I did not make a post there about it. Tom knew nothing about it either and thought it was odd that the event was even taking place considering SF has said that the case is essentially dormant.

Anybody have any details of last night's event?

I was there and had one of the best Z times ever ! The name of the SFPD Det. who spoke last night is Al Casciato. Kevin Fagan was his wonderful self , he made everyone laugh at all of the crazy letters and emails he gets from so many people who think they know who the Zodiac is. I was flattered that he mentioned my name as being one of the smart sleuths LOL.
Kevin mentioning my name a few times to the audience ,gave me some credibility, enough , that when I did go up to talk to people they did listen. And not give me that is she crazy look LOL.
I met a handsome now retired SFPD Det who has also worked with CSI and is a writer ! We exchanged emails and phone numbers . There was an SFPD forensic woman Pamela Hoffsass, ( Not sure of that spelling?) I spoke to her , after she talked about the DNA she said she has on Zodiac. I asked her about that DNA , she said yes it is a partial, but with how fast DNA forensics has been improving, she believes that it will be the DNA they have that will solve the case. I asked her if she ever tested the gloves that were left in the cab ? She said no, I said that even though SFPD may have felt the gloves were too small to fit a guy as large as they heard the Lake B killer was, that I think those gloves should be tested. She agreed with me, Lets hope that they are not missing from evidence room ?
I haven't tasted beer in about 25 yrs , but I had part of one they offered with the pork belly sandwich I ate. It was very good ! There wasn't any Q & A which would have been fun, the audience had very few who knew much about the case, they were just curious to see what was going to take place about the case. Al Casciato talked for a short time about the night of the Paul Stine shooting but didn't add anything that we didn't know already.
Kevin spoke about some of the people who have written him in the past about their suspects saying that he hoped that none of these people were in the audience.
The crowd LOL.
As it turns out one of the people who has Graysmith as his suspect , was there.
He didn't come near me, I had met him a few weeks ago at Graysmiths book signing his wife asked me if I thought Graysmith could be the Zodiac ? I didn't realize he was the guy who has RG as the Z and I said in a almost laugh, good God no way ! So now he wants nothing more to do with me, plus he saw how friendly

RG was towards me.


Sorry ,but I am having computer problems. This post took me all day to get posted because of my internet connection !!!!!!

Thank you Sandy! I'm so glad you went. Very interesting about the DNA and this new knowledge is bound to heat up the forums in the coming days.

Ditto. Great Job Sandy.

Wow! Very disheartening. This sounds like we are back in 2002. Isn't the "partial" Insp. Hofsass referred to the same one that research has proven comes from letters that were NOT licked by the sender? Do we have to go through all that explaining AGAIN? The department has to know this, right? They are the ones testing for saliva. Then in 2009 when Little Debbie came along, they admitted that the DNA they had "may not be reliable?" The more things change the more they stay the same.

Mike

Mike R. I do remember all of that , that is why I had to ask her in person. It was straight from the horse's mouth so to speak.
Perhaps they felt that by saying the DNA was not any good, that they didn't have reliable DNA to test , it would stop anyone else like Deb Perez from playing foolish games costing Calif. a lot of unnecessary time and money ? All I know is that she had no reason to lie about it .

Earlier, while she was speaking to everyone about the DNA that she said they have, I looked at Ricardo and said: Did you hear that ? That was when I knew I had to clarify what she said, by just asking her. The idea that there is still some hope of solving this case with DNA was thrilling to hear.

Good job Sandy, glad you had fun, and thanks for the report

Hi Sandy-

No, there is more to it than that. The research LL and I did and the comments made to Ray Nixon by Maloney were made over time and long before Debbie Perez came along. The comments by Alan Keel about the envelopes not being licked came to me in 2007 and to LL, as well independently of my efforts. No, the statements leading to the notion that the DNA they now have not being reliable to rule anyone out came long before Debbie Perez and came from multiple sources.

But I am tired of rehashing all of that in gory detail, so we'll just have to puzzle over what Insp. Hofsass said.

Mike