5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby wesley_whit » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:52 pm

Does anyone know when the other four parts are airing?
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby Tahoe27 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:04 am

Every Tuesday. Re-runs in between.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby monarch » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:59 am

It's remarkable that one of the librarians that was working at the RCC library in 1966 IS STILL THERE !
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby joku » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:49 am

I've not read this thread in order to avoid possible spoilers. I want to see the show so much... but I'm not in the US.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby wesley_whit » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:16 pm

Tahoe27 wrote:Every Tuesday. Re-runs in between.

Thank you. I guess I will wait for all the episodes to air and then binge.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby mike_r » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:58 pm

There is a lot I could say about this show. One of my sources at the Vidocq Society told me that this guy Mains approached them about becoming a member but was refused because he was not qualified and couldn't make the cut. So he started his own group, lol. I was told that the term "cold case expert" is a stretch for him.

I wish real Z researchers who know the case inside and out had been on this show. Nobody asked that guy Shumway why he said Cheri Jo was stabbed 42 times in 2000 and why he came up with all that melodrama about their "pet suspect" at that time. What was wrong with the mt-DNA they used to compare against their suspect in 2000? Was he ruled out? RPD so secretive in a case that cries out for the help of the public.

Zodiac did not write on Zodiac stationery. He wrote on Monarch size stationery.

The guy from LAPD said that the boot prints from Riverside were the "same ones from up north." Not true.

Since when was Z a guy who was "250 lbs.?" In my conversations with Fouke, he said that because of the jacket Z was wearing, he could have been off by "50 lbs" in his estimates. Both he and Lindsey laughed at the possibility that Allen was the man they saw and Ross was bigger than Allen, whom Fouke called "way out of proportion." Hartnell also backed off in the COTC and said that the attacker could have been "big or small." http://www.zodiackiller.com/COTC14.html

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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby Tahoe27 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:41 am

mike_r wrote:There is a lot I could say about this show. One of my sources at the Vidocq Society told me that this guy Mains approached them about becoming a member but was refused because he was not qualified and couldn't make the cut. So he started his own group, lol. I was told that the term "cold case expert" is a stretch for him.

I wish real Z researchers who know the case inside and out had been on this show....

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I do agree someone who knew this case like the back of their hand should have been their 3rd wheel.

I would like to add though, Mains "group" appears to be quite reputable and genuine. He is a nice guy and sincere in his words. I cannot speak for his expertise, but I think his bio is quite impressive.

http://www.aisocc.com/what-we-do/

http://www.kennethmains.com/experience.html
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby monarch » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:02 am

mike_r wrote:There is a lot I could say about this show. One of my sources at the Vidocq Society told me that this guy Mains approached them about becoming a member but was refused because he was not qualified and couldn't make the cut. So he started his own group, lol. I was told that the term "cold case expert" is a stretch for him.

I wish real Z researchers who know the case inside and out had been on this show. Nobody asked that guy Shumway why he said Cheri Jo was stabbed 42 times in 2000 and why he came up with all that melodrama about their "pet suspect" at that time. What was wrong with the mt-DNA they used to compare against their suspect in 2000? Was he ruled out? RPD so secretive in a case that cries out for the help of the public.

Zodiac did not write on Zodiac stationery. He wrote on Monarch size stationery.

The guy from LAPD said that the boot prints from Riverside were the "same ones from up north." Not true.

Since when was Z a guy who was "250 lbs.?" In my conversations with Fouke, he said that because of the jacket Z was wearing, he could have been off by "50 lbs" in his estimates. Both he and Lindsey laughed at the possibility that Allen was the man they saw and Ross was bigger than Allen, whom Fouke called "way out of proportion." Hartnell also backed off in the COTC and said that the attacker could have been "big or small." http://www.zodiackiller.com/COTC14.html

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Keep in mind the soil compaction tests done at Lake Berryessa indicate that Z was well over 200 pounds, this is the only physical
evidence we have to indicate Z's weight.
The witnesses impressions of his weight are very subjective.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby StitchMallone » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:21 am

Mike R brings up some good points and right away I was saying to myself the LAPD guy is very wrong on the boots.The Bates case are average military boots and the Zodiac's Wing Walkers and just a bit more rare. Anyways glad there looking into Ross and getting national attention now. Far better then the usual suspects that been look into over and over again. I'm happy for Morf and all else that been looking into Ross. I hope this show before it's over will either match Ross's DNA to Bates or exclude him. History channel please don't D tease and get the DNA tested to Ross!
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby joku » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:34 am

StitchMallone wrote:Mike R brings up some good points and right away I was saying to myself the LAPD guy is very wrong on the boots.The Bates case are average military boots and the Zodiac's Wing Walkers and just a bit more rare. Anyways glad there looking into Ross and getting national attention now. Far better then the usual suspects that been look into over and over again. I'm happy for Morf and all else that been looking into Ross. I hope this show before it's over will either match Ross's DNA to Bates or exclude him. History channel please don't D tease and get the DNA tested to Ross!


I guess everyone would love a test with Ross' DNA but he has been deceased for 30 years and it seems his living relatives who could give a DNA sample do not want to be associated with this whole thing.
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