5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby checkmate » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:04 pm

Welp, History has just enough so they can greenlight season 2. :)
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby MMSox » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:11 pm

I found the fact a member of the Mikado show said he and others noticed a weird guy at the shows repeatedly and that he was over 6 feet tall and “well built”, a stocky guy much more telling. He all but described Ross.

No doubt they’ll make a season two given they found male dna on Bates’ pants and the gloves in Stein’s cab.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby THE LOVER » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:18 pm

The DNA finds have made the show worthwhile.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby texas21 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:23 pm

The theme song should be "Is That All There Is?"
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby A.N.Other » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:33 pm

monarch wrote:
marie wrote:
ophion1031 wrote:I solved it 340, and Richard M. "Nikson" was Zodiac.. ha! Misspelling the presidents name would be something I could see Z doing though.

Richard Grinell pointed out that Nixon was the 37th president. 37 kills. Hmm. He also noted that Nixon was president from 1969 until 1974, which lines up. Could there really be something to this??


I figured that out, too, and he also, drumroll, represented the 12 District of CA from 47-51. OK, so back then it represented eastern LA, it now is SF!

But then there is the whole Ross Sullivan thing- claiming Binghamton is a stones throw to Albany (whats over 2 hours between friends?) so clearly Ross had a distinct Albany connection? Nixon moved to NYC, that is closer to Albany! And for anyone who doesn't know, Albany is the State Capital, not NYC.

I have found the show as a whole highly entertaining. I would say its a complete waste except for 2 things- I entertain my husband with a running commentary on their "discoveries...

...and the only new fact I never remember hearing was that the empty houses between where CJB was killed was used for library overflow and storage. Is this true??? The librarian they interviewed said that, which makes me wonder about where the desk was found. That could hint at Ross writing it, but they also made it sound like no one knew the houses were empty except library employees since they were using it- thus the perfect place for an ambush???

SMH, was hoping for more but maybe that one nugget will happen?

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I have a book on the history of RCC, it states that the house closest to the Quad building was used as the library annex and the
library employees called it "Harvard" (some people mistakenly refer to the main library as the library annex).

I read somewhere that the next house over was used as the "black student union", but I have not been able to confirm this.

There was more than just two houses that were vacant, the entire square block of houses were vacant (about a dozen houses)
The college needed the land for their expansion plans and used eminent domain to force the home owners to sell their homes
to RCC, this had taken place a few weeks or months before the murder.

I've read two things regarding the location of the desk top poem, some say it was found in the library and others say it was
found in the library storage room. if it was found in the storage room that would make Ross an even stronger suspect because
as an employee he would have had access to the storage room !


I can attest to the fact that all the houses lining Terracina Drive were used as either office space for the various college departments or used for storage. Don't know about the Black Student Union ever using them. Ross Sullivan as a library worker would have known that the houses adjacent to the murder scene were vacant. I remember in 67 I escorted a girl that I knew from Ramona High School to her car which was parked in the adjacent parking lot. We walked right through the old murder site and neither of us said a word. The place was dark, gloomy, and filled most people who knew the history of the site with deep sadness.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby Tahoe27 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:51 pm

We've known for a while now about the male DNA found in regards to Cheri's case. It has been thought the gloves were women's so male DNA is interesting, although, weren't they found in the back seat? Why would Zodiac take them off, leave them, then go up front. A big oops, but possible.

Must have not been a match or that would have been one hell of an ending!!
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby R Vance » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:57 pm

So much for the five episode thing, huh?

Rename it "The Curse of the Hunt for the Zodiac Killer."

The 340 code thing seems to be pretty meaningless at this point.

The DNA evidence will be the key if these crimes will ever be solved. It will be interesting to see if the DNA at the Bates murder matches the supposed DNA from the known Zodiac crimes. If it's a match, that would certainly strengthen the case that the DNA from the letters is Zodiac's. Then if a DNA profile for Ross Sullivan could be obtained, or at least that of a close relative, he could either be excluded or confirmed as Zodiac.

Anyway, I can see this being dragged on for years like Oak Island. :x
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby MMSox » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:59 pm

R Vance wrote:So much for the five episode thing, huh?

Rename it "The Curse of the Hunt for the Zodiac Killer."

The 340 code thing seems to be pretty meaningless at this point.

The DNA evidence will be the key if these crimes will ever be solved. It will be interesting to see if the DNA at the Bates murder matches the supposed DNA from the known Zodiac crimes. If it's a match, that would certainly strengthen the case that the DNA from the letters is Zodiac's. Then if a DNA profile for Ross Sullivan could be obtained, or at least that of a close relative, he could either be excluded or confirmed as Zodiac.

Anyway, I can see this being dragged on for years like Oak Island. :x

I’ll be really bummed if they figure out who did it with dna and do like oak island has.
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby ophion1031 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:58 am

Season two... TEST MANALLI'S DNA!!!
A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away....
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Re: 5 Part History Channel Series on Zodiac out 11/14

Postby texas21 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:16 am

Even for reality TV, the investigation seemed uncoordinated. The super computer was touted again and again throughout the episodes and provided basically nothing. The solution to the 340 cipher felt like an attempt to offer something on the cipher after the computer struck out. The two investigators seemed focused from the beginning on two suspects and their efforts came off as working backward from those suspects instead of forward to new evidence. And Vallejo didn't seem to figure in their efforts, which is bizarre. Typical History Channel string along.
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