Zodiac Buff!

[MIGHTYQUINN]

Please let me formally introduce myself.....My name is Mighty Quinn. To put it in a nut shell, I've been fascinated with Zodiac as long as I can remember. As a kid when my friends were watching cartoons and doing normal things kids were supposed to do, I was doing the opposite. I would wonder off to the river and try and usually succeed at building a dam.I would always try to climb the highest tree, or build an underground fort. I guess looking back I definitely never "fit in"with people my age.I was always more interested in listening to "grown ups" talk.Damn,I sure must of asked a lot of questions. Like most here, I have always been fascinated with any unsolved mystery. There is one huge difference with regard to Zodiac although. As far as we know he brought an entire city to it's knees. One man held San Francisco in the palm of his hand. Truly a gigantic task and he seemed to have pulled it off with ease. People wearing buttons? FrontPage headlines of any and all newspapers? A public relations mastermind to put it mildly. I'm really baffled as to why he didn't have all the radio stations playing his favorite tune on a nightly basis?I mean come on....he could of had a marching band at his command if he so desired.All movie theaters shall be free,stay open all night and only comedy's will be shown...oh ya and don't forget free butter popcorn for all the kiddies.Well that's it for now folks.At this point I don't think Zodiac will be caught and in all honesty it's probably better that way.

[morf13]

Well Mightyquinn, welcome. I hope Z is caught or identified, but think it's unlikely

[Jarlve]

Welcome Mighty Quinn,

I would always try to climb the highest tree, or build an underground fort.

It's amazing you are still alive!

[sandy betts]

There would be a better chance of catching Zodiac , if SFPD would do something about the DNA they have inside of the gloves found in the cab. Or touch DNA on Stine's shirt and inside of the pockets where Zodiac did put his hands . They could get a full DNA profile if they would do more . Now there is a way to check for eye and hair color of a suspect and if a person is African American or Hispanic etc.

Just to have that information on Zodiac, would eliminate many suspects and get us closer to a viable suspect.

I watched Forensic Files the other night and saw that the DNA information showed that the perp had light hair and blue eyes and was from a European descent . The suspect saw that on TV about him and turned himself in.
I doubt Zodiac would do that, but it would sure make him squirm .

Also on that same program, finger prints were checked in the national data base against a print they had on a murder suspect.
It wasn't found there , but it was found by a Det. who checked 92 other places for a print comparison and found a match. The suspect had been printed for a minor offence, which would not be put into the data base, just as I have said for many years now.

I still believe that Zodiac can be caught before he dies, if only LE would look closer at the evidence.

[Norse]

I still believe that Zodiac can be caught before he dies, if only LE would look closer at the evidence.

I take your point, Sandy - in general. There might be something there, in the available evidence, which has not been looked at with modern eyes (and technology).

But we don't know whether the gloves were his (unlikely, IMO) or whether he actually left any useable DNA on Stine's shirt or in his pockets.

[Tahoe27]

Welcome MQ.

We must thank the media for any hyped-up glorification Zodiac received.

I've talked to many people who lived in the Bay Area at the time, my parents included, who didn't think twice about the guy. Many just thought he was some crazy punk and didn't walk around in fear of him.

LE certainly had to take note, but he didn't have the power he liked to think he had.

I grew up in the Bay Area and never even heard of him until the late 80's and most of the people I knew hadn't heard of him either...maybe when the movie came out.

[sandy betts]

Zodiac was talked about a lot in Vallejo /Napa area and believe it or not they still talk about him there.

I remember one afternoon in the early to mid 90's , I went to the wharf in Vallejo to have lunch and over heard two waitresses talking about a customer who was in earlier that day . The one waitress said to the other, that she thought a older looking man she had waited on was thee Zodiac.

I am sorry now that I didn't ask her why she felt he was Zodiac and what did he look like ?

[sandy betts]

I still believe that Zodiac can be caught before he dies, if only LE would look closer at the evidence.

I take your point, Sandy - in general. There might be something there, in the available evidence, which has not been looked at with modern eyes (and technology).

But we don't know whether the gloves were his (unlikely, IMO) or whether he actually left any useable DNA on Stine's shirt or in his pockets.

Some feel the same way as you do about the gloves, but with further investigation is was learned that after each shift, the cabs were gone through and cleaned. So it is highly likely that the gloves belonged to Zodiac.
The gloves were covered with blood , so I hope that no one tried to put them on to see how they would fit ?
My bet is that he still wears a size 7 glove.

[MIGHTYQUINN]

Zodiac was talked about a lot in Vallejo /Napa area and believe it or not they still talk about him there.

I remember one afternoon in the early to mid 90's , I went to the wharf in Vallejo to have lunch and over heard two waitresses talking about a customer who was in earlier that day . The one waitress said to the other, that she thought a older looking man she had waited on was thee Zodiac.

I am sorry now that I didn't ask her why she felt he was Zodiac and what did he look like ?

WOW.....The Sandy Betts....makes an appearance on my Intro thread...How cool is that boys n girls .Aren't you like Zodiac Folklore Royalty or sumpin'?Lol.I know you're probably like oh heck who is this freak? Other than being a Zodiaphile....really, I'm harmless.

Oh yes...I can definitely see Zodiac coming back to present day Vallejo.Munchin' on some fish n chips...remembering those poor people who had the unfortunate luck of having had crossed his deadly path.Sippin'on a Flat Tire ale r two thinkin' back/reliving the moments and the women that went to the slaughter. Man...he sure was one crazy dude. Did he really throw that lady's baby out of the window?Sheesh!Talk about cold blooded? I can totally see him in any of those restaurants telling a waitress that he is The Zodiac Killer. Just to see their reaction and hoping to scare the shit out of them.
Well Sandy....If you ever go back and see that waitress do me a favor....ask her if he left a tip?Thanks

[Nin]

WOW.....The Sandy Betts....makes an appearance on my Intro thread...How cool is that boys n girls .Aren't you like Zodiac Folklore Royalty or sumpin'?Lol.I know you're probably like oh heck who is this freak? Other than being a Zodiaphile....really, I'm harmless.
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Well Sandy....If you ever go back and see that waitress do me a favor....ask her if he left a tip?Thanks

Careful here, you need to control your sarcasm.

-Nin