Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

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Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby Craigfitzer » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:39 am

I have to first say that Kane is my main POI. However, for many well documented reasons I can’t seem to reason away Sullivan. I am at 90 percent on him being the riverside killer. Facially, if we are all honest there is no one who looks closer to that famous sketch. In fact, IMO its dead on. Physically, body wise I guess he doesn’t fit, however non of the main POI’s fit the physical description if you read most of the posts here.

In 2013 I posted a question “why not Laurence Kane?” There were many good responses, but kinda what I was looking for was, “it can’t be him he was in this area at that time of this or that killing.” Or something similar.

I think my main point is this: Sometimes we become so strongly motivated concerning are own POI suspicions that we don’t look at another suspect Without our own prejudice fogging up our perspective.

So I have tried reasoning away Ross because I have been some what confident on my POI Kane. I have been unsuccessful.
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby StitchMallone » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:04 am

Craigfitzer wrote:I have to first say that Kane is my main POI. However, for many well documented reasons I can’t seem to reason away Sullivan. I am at 90 percent on him being the riverside killer. Facially, if we are all honest there is no one who looks closer to that famous sketch. In fact, IMO its dead on. Physically, body wise I guess he doesn’t fit, however non of the main POI’s fit the physical description if you read most of the posts here.

In 2013 I posted a question “why not Laurence Kane?” There were many good responses, but kinda what I was looking for was, “it can’t be him he was in this area at that time of this or that killing.” Or something similar.

I think my main point is this: Sometimes we become so strongly motivated concerning are own POI suspicions that we don’t look at another suspect Without our own prejudice fogging up our perspective.

So I have tried reasoning away Ross because I have been some what confident on my POI Kane. I have been unsuccessful.
There is a lot of good suspects mention on this board and not even the main ones. Problem is none can rule them out or in cause of lack of information. The internet only takes you so far in the Zodiac case. Ross is a good suspect as well but we lack information on him like many others.
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby Chaucer » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:08 pm

You have to ask yourself, how accurate is the Stine sketch?
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby TomVoigt » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:29 pm

Craigfitzer wrote:In 2013 I posted a question “why not Laurence Kane?” There were many good responses, but kinda what I was looking for was, “it can’t be him he was in this area at that time of this or that killing.” Or something similar.


Pick a random name out of a phone book and you'll have a better suspect than Kane.

As far as Sullivan is concerned, it was established that he had an alibi for both the Bates and Berryessa attacks. If that doesn't reason him out, I don't know what would.
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby Chaucer » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:35 pm

TomVoigt wrote:
Craigfitzer wrote:In 2013 I posted a question “why not Laurence Kane?” There were many good responses, but kinda what I was looking for was, “it can’t be him he was in this area at that time of this or that killing.” Or something similar.


Pick a random name out of a phone book and you'll have a better suspect than Kane.

As far as Sullivan is concerned, it was established that he had an alibi for both the Bates and Berryessa attacks. If that doesn't reason him out, I don't know what would.

Has it ever been established what that alibi was for the Bates murder? I know you have said that he was hospitalized during the LB attack.
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby snooter » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:46 pm

KJ to this day probably is still the best eyewitness..but of course its highly argumentative if she was with z....i highly doubt the stein sketch is even close to being accurate...
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby Chaucer » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:54 pm

It's not even accurate to call the Stine sketch a "sketch". It was an "Ident-I-Kit" which was more like a Mr. Potato Head.
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby monarch » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:32 pm

Do we REALLY know for CERTAIN that Ross had an alibi ? After all it was a well established fact that Cheri Jo's
VW Beetle was lime green, But it wasn't, as it turns out it was WHITE.
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby Marshall » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:15 am

snooter wrote:KJ to this day probably is still the best eyewitness..but of course its highly argumentative if she was with z....i highly doubt the stein sketch is even close to being accurate...


I thought I read on one of the threads here that when Johns saw the sketch she immediately said that was her abductor. If that's accurate, then I don't think it would be logical to give KJ credence as having been with Z, while discounting the sketch as not being close to accurate.

I think the Stine sketch is close, and I doubt KJ was with Z (the guy who killed at LHR, BRS, and PH.)
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Re: Reasoning out Ross Sullivan

Postby Chaucer » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:21 am

I don't think KJ was a Zodiac victim at all, and I believe Richard Grinell has laid out the best case why:

https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-ne ... ion-or-not
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