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Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:15 pm
by TomVoigt
I have a report with his name, that's how I knew he existed. It was handwritten along with another name and some notes. Don't know who wrote it, though.

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:36 pm
by krxo1
idk if it matters but didnt they get a call from a mental facility who was claiming to be the zodiac

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:26 pm
by CuriousCat
krxo1 wrote:idk if it matters but didnt they get a call from a mental facility who was claiming to be the zodiac


Yes, but they know who it was and it wasn't Sullivan.

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:20 pm
by Paul_Averly
TomVoigt wrote:I have a report with his name, that's how I knew he existed. It was handwritten along with another name and some notes. Don't know who wrote it, though.


There were mentions of Ross on message boards 20 years ago that are still posted today, but they all had to do with CJB and Riverside. The first time you heard of Ross was from Napa?

There are major issues with this claim. As pointed out, you never mentioned Ross being locked up on any board from the past 20 years. When interviewed directly about Ross in the Ratter article you said he was "a vetted suspect." When the History channel show aired, you posted "I was told by LE he is a non-factor." This is VERY different than the Napa-alibi claim.

On top of all that, this claim also establishes that Napa knew about Ross so well that the officer remembered looking into him. However, both Napa and Vallejo have no suspect profile or notes regarding Ross. If Lonergan was so thorough to verify Ross was locked up and even remember him after 30 years, he just simply failed to write a report?

Morf: a good contact I had in Napa County about 4 years ago, and he could not even find Ross Sullivan in the Suspect reports, on the list of ruled out POI's or ones that were still considered POI's. Vallejo as well did not have him"


-Ross also failed to show up in the DOJ files.
-Dave Peterson never found a connection to Napa, even with him being a reporter from the area.

The only real mention of an alibi from the past 20 years, was from Howard Davis and that regards RIVERSIDE.
viewtopic.php?f=106&t=2293&start=20

Wouldn't Howard Davis be a person who would also know this Ross locked up in Napa story? Why no mention from him?

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:29 pm
by TomVoigt
"The first time you heard of Ross was from Napa?"

I learned the name "Ross Sullivan" because it was scrawled on a copy of a police report I already had collected by the time I met with Lonergan. Other stuff was scrawled as well, not sure who wrote on it. The report was between NCSD and RPD regarding a possible connection between their cases. I didn't even have a message board until a few years after I learned Ross was ruled out as Zodiac, but I may have posted info at the old Deja News forum, which is now a part of Google Groups, I believe.

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:32 pm
by TomVoigt
"Wouldn't Howard Davis be a person who would also know this Ross locked up in Napa story?"

Howard wasn't with me when I met with Lonergan.

The funny thing is, all of the reports and crime scene pics Lonergan gave me access to, if I hadn't shared them, people would have said I was lying. Maybe one day I'll get the benefit of the doubt, but I won't hold my breath.

Anyone can ask Howard if they want to.

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:06 am
by Paul_Averly
TomVoigt wrote:Maybe one day I'll get the benefit of the doubt, but I won't hold my breath.


It's quite a big leap to just say a suspect is eliminated just because someone on a different message board writes something with not much to back it up.

I understand you have access to reports most don't, but still seems like this information doesn't jive with what we have learned.

Please post any scans of any documents related to this, and maybe we can try to verify all of it.

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:19 am
by Druzer
Tom is the leading civilian expert on the Zodiac case - I take him at his word.

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:26 pm
by TomVoigt
Druzer wrote:Tom is the leading civilian expert on the Zodiac case - I take him at his word.


Thank you for that.

I was done with Ross in late 1998, so I don't quite get why anyone would think it significant that I didn't post more about him lol.

Re: Dick Lonergan's alleged Sullivan Alibi

PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:04 pm
by Chaucer
Why are some of you upset that Sullivan is eliminated as a suspect? This is a good thing. It means that we can focus our time and energy elsewhere.

Stop treating this as if someone personally offended you.