Zodiackillersite.com

It would imply that my memory was boosted by an outside source, vis-à-vis the materials I mentioned.

Paul_Averly wrote:That's all speculation, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's just all hear say.

I'm just trying to clarify, because it went from:

"I believe the Napa County SD also looked at Ross."
to
"I believe he said it was via fingerprints"
to
"If memory serves, it turned out Ross was in a mental facility "

Now it's notes?

Wouldn't that make the "memory serves," read better as "according to my notes" ?

Unrelated, Jon Sullivan said Ross was locked up mental facility, but there is evidence that happened after 1970.

Why wouldn't Ross be listed as cleared at Napa? Wouldn't Napa document that for future investigators?
If they put the time in to clear him, least they could do is list him on the suspects cleared list...

Hmmm well I think it's safe to say all else aside, the waters have now been muddied beyond repair.

Being told a suspect was locked up in an insane asylum on an exact date is very specific.

There was a report of Ross in an insane asylum, but it was from Jon Sullivan for one of the Ratter articles (no longer online).
"Ratter reporters interview with Ross's brother, Ross was by his memory in a Santa Clara insane asylum during the zodiac killings"

Jon was not in CA at the time. The PI also managed to dig up that info, but it seemed to point to Ross going to Agnews after 1970.

I'm sorry, call me a fanboy but, if anything, this information makes Ross seem more guilty to me.

This information basically confirms he was a patient at Napa State Hospital during the murders. We already knew, via Gerald Katz, that Ross murdered and/or wrote letters in between stays at the hospitals or on his various leaves. We always said that if we could confirm him a patient at the hospital during this period it would link him to all of the crimes (Vallejo and Lake Berryessa which both fall on opposite ends of the Napa-Vallejo Highway to and from the Hospital). He had a brother who lived in San Francisco during the summer of 1969, so that would explain why he sent letters from there and shot the cab driver there). Him at the Napa State Hospital would allow us to place him near all the murders. We know that Ross was arrested in July 1969 in Los Angeles for public drunkenness and disorderly, so he had to have been let out sometimes. If this info is true, Ross was a patient in Napa.

We would just have to learn when he had leaves, or was allowed to leave, etc.

replaceablehead wrote:Hmmm well I think it's safe to say all else aside, the waters have now been muddied beyond repair.

Not if you read my recent comments and don't try to twist them by using old quotes from long after I had forgotten what I had been told about Ross.

And I already know that if I post my old notes and other materials, those who don't want it to be true will just say it was photoshopped etc.

4 Days ago:

TomVoigt wrote:I know I've told that story numerous times over the years. It's nothing new. Maybe at the old deja news forum?

Just pointing out that I can't find a single mention is this anywhere on the web from the past 20+ years of archived posts.

The closest thing mentioning Ross being locked up would be the Ratter article, and the mention was from Jon S.

The confusion might be that Napa did look into Griffin Raymond, and this is verifiable.
http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport14.html

JeffP wrote: We know that Ross was arrested in July 1969 in Los Angeles for public drunkenness and disorderly,

We have a rumor of that. No one has found the report.

I do think that patients could leave Napa State Hospital, it was not a prison.
Agnews on the other hand, was more of a lockdown situation.

I agree, proving Ross was at Napa State, would put him too close to ignore.

Paul_Averly wrote:

JeffP wrote: We know that Ross was arrested in July 1969 in Los Angeles for public drunkenness and disorderly,

We have a rumor of that. No one has found the report.

I do think that patients could leave Napa State Hospital, it was not a prison.
Agnews on the other hand, was more of a lockdown situation.

I agree, proving Ross was at Napa State, would put him too close to ignore.

This rumor though came from the same report that had Ross arrested in Santa Cruz in 1968 which we did confirm through a newspaper article.

TomVoigt wrote:No, a private citizen. His name is floating around here somewhere.

His name is Phil SIns, there's a thread around here someplace from an interview I did with him

Paul_Averly wrote:4 Days ago:

TomVoigt wrote:I know I've told that story numerous times over the years. It's nothing new. Maybe at the old deja news forum?

Just pointing out that I can't find a single mention is this anywhere on the web from the past 20+ years of archived posts.

The closest thing mentioning Ross being locked up would be the Ratter article, and the mention was from Jon S.

The confusion might be that Napa did look into Griffin Raymond, and this is verifiable.
http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport14.html

Respectfully, until I see something in black and white stating Ross had an alibi for the day of the Berryessa murders, I'll have to take it with a grain of salt. And if he is being talked about as having an alibi, then that seems to put him in the SF Bay area. I have a whole lot of Napa reports, and NONE of them mention Ross Sullivan's name