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Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 am
by CuriousCat
Tahoe27 wrote: I was just reiterating no broken knife was found and there were no broken pieces in Cheri,


Not saying our wrong, but you are assuming we know everything the police know. We don't. They always hold back certain details.

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:29 am
by Tahoe27
CuriousCat wrote:
Tahoe27 wrote: I was just reiterating no broken knife was found and there were no broken pieces in Cheri,


Not saying our wrong, but you are assuming we know everything the police know. We don't. They always hold back certain details.


We know there was nothing found (as far as any sign of a broken knife) in Cheri as we have been privy to the autopsy report.

Could the police have it? Anything is possible...

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:42 pm
by CuriousCat
Tahoe27 wrote: Anything is possible...


That's what I mean, we don't even know what he meant by the knife breaking. He said "I plunged the knife into her and it broke", but then goes on to say "I then finished the job by cutting her throat".

So, if it did break, it wasn't broken bad enough to stop him from cutting her throat with it. I'm guessing it was a small pocketknife he used. I've had them "break" where the blade doesn't lock anymore, just flops back and forth, that might be what he meant. He could have also opened another blade and used it to "finish the job".

Whatever the case, I agree it's most likely it didn't break off in her body and if it broke and fell to the ground I can't see him spending time to fish around in the dark to find it.

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:45 pm
by Tahoe27
CuriousCat wrote:
Tahoe27 wrote: Anything is possible...


That's what I mean, we don't even know what he meant by the knife breaking. He said "I plunged the knife into her and it broke", but then goes on to say "I then finished the job by cutting her throat".

So, if it did break, it wasn't broken bad enough to stop him from cutting her throat with it. I'm guessing it was a small pocketknife he used. I've had them "break" where the blade doesn't lock anymore, just flops back and forth, that might be what he meant. He could have also opened another blade and used it to "finish the job".

Whatever the case, I agree it's most likely it didn't break off in her body and if it broke and fell to the ground I can't see him spending time to fish around in the dark to find it.


Yah, I doubt it broke and fell. He didn't take much time to look for the watch either...if that is his. ;) Considering it appears to be ripped of, I think it was.

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:01 am
by Nick, no Nora
If I recall the discussions we've had about the Bates Confession letter, there are details in it that were not known publicly. IIRC, the letter basically says (heavily implies) that the writer called the police that night. The police would be in a position to know. I'm pretty sure, also, that there's an FBI document stating that the writer knew details not known to the public. That doesn't mean the FBI was right about that. But ....

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:35 am
by Nick, no Nora
MMSox wrote:I’m assuming that would be enough for everyone to agree he killed her, but would it be enough for you to move him to the top of your Zodiac suspect list given that, the sketch, similar handwriting, etc?


I look at it this way: Suppose there's a murder of someone you know. it's not solved. And then two or three years later, there's a famous murder spree in another part of the state. And a drawing of the suspect looks a lot like a guy she knew who had been at least a minor suspect in the murder in your town. And it turns out that there are letters in both cases, and the state's chief forensics handwriting expert says the handwriting matches. And the expert is (more or less) backed up by the FBI.

Sure, it could all be a coincidence. But what does your common sense tell you?

DNA would just be more fuel to that fire.

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:54 am
by MMSox
Well put.

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:53 am
by morf13
I think that DNA from Cheri's pants whether it belonged to Ross, or somebody else, could be an important find

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:27 am
by Boilermaker
morf13 wrote:I think that DNA from Cheri's pants whether it belonged to Ross, or somebody else, could be an important find

When do you think this will be announced/released to public - being held for a Season 2?

Re: If they find Ross’ DNA on Cheri’s pants

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:30 pm
by Tahoe27
Boilermaker wrote:
morf13 wrote:I think that DNA from Cheri's pants whether it belonged to Ross, or somebody else, could be an important find

When do you think this will be announced/released to public - being held for a Season 2?


When they find a match for it. We won't know until someone is arrested, or...if they get familial DNA from a dead guy and match it that way, whether to Ross, or anyone else. The latter is the only way I can see the History Channel having (even the slightest) say.