Possibly MAJOR Ross Sullivan writing find in yearbook

[Ham Friend]

The tilt of the "g" and spacing between it and the "u". The "u" seems to pull away from the "g" at a sharp angle

[smokie treats]

Also, one is bound to find an individual letter that looks similar when you pick and choose the ones you like. I'd also only stick with the writings known, for sure, to be from Zodiac. I question that yearbook, but have faith in the SS paperwork.

Other people are going to question the yearbook too, but we can work on that. Ham, you should make a nice PDF copy of the yearbook, or maybe there is another way that we can all look at the whole thing. We can see who signed the yearbook and verify if they are students, and what clubs they belonged to. Maybe make associations. See Ross elsewhere in the yearbook, etc. The jury would want more evidence, even if circumstantial, so to speak.

I agree with Tahoe that someone could cherry pick letters from Zodiac letters and compare them to the SS paperwork and the yearbook. I am a little bit surprised that this find had not created the buzz that it probably should have. The comparisons that look the same are really very interesting and this ain't done yet at all. Your presentation is beautiful and I don't want to poo-poo it. It is awesome. But to convince a lot of people, there needs to be more. People want to take in a lot of information to make on objective opinion. Maybe presenting a lot of information and let people decide for themselves, whatever the results.

Someone did an excellent job at comparing the Eureka Card handwriting to Zodiac handwriting at zodiackiller.com. I have been trying to find it, but crap it is all different now on that site. But what they did was show several versions of each letter of the alphabet compared to the Eureka Card. It was more comprehensive. Some of the letters look the same, and some look different. Not to change the subject to that card, which I think is probably a hoax, but to give an example. The tables looked more similar to here: https://science.howstuffworks.com/handw ... lysis1.htm. Can someone find that darn thread?

Maybe someone will do this at some point with the information and pictures that you provide. Thank you for what you have done so far.

[monarch]

Incredible similarities !

What are the odds there would be so many similarities with the very limited examples we have of Ross' writing ?

Is this finally it, Ross = Z ?

[Ham Friend]

Also, one is bound to find an individual letter that looks similar when you pick and choose the ones you like. I'd also only stick with the writings known, for sure, to be from Zodiac. I question that yearbook, but have faith in the SS paperwork.

Other people are going to question the yearbook too, but we can work on that. Ham, you should make a nice PDF copy of the yearbook, or maybe there is another way that we can all look at the whole thing. We can see who signed the yearbook and verify if they are students, and what clubs they belonged to. Maybe make associations. See Ross elsewhere in the yearbook, etc. The jury would want more evidence, even if circumstantial, so to speak.

I agree with Tahoe that someone could cherry pick letters from Zodiac letters and compare them to the SS paperwork and the yearbook. I am a little bit surprised that this find had not created the buzz that it probably should have. The comparisons that look the same are really very interesting and this ain't done yet at all. Your presentation is beautiful and I don't want to poo-poo it. It is awesome. But to convince a lot of people, there needs to be more. People want to take in a lot of information to make on objective opinion. Maybe presenting a lot of information and let people decide for themselves, whatever the results.

Someone did an excellent job at comparing the Eureka Card handwriting to Zodiac handwriting at zodiackiller.com. I have been trying to find it, but crap it is all different now on that site. But what they did was show several versions of each letter of the alphabet compared to the Eureka Card. It was more comprehensive. Some of the letters look the same, and some look different. Not to change the subject to that card, which I think is probably a hoax, but to give an example. The tables looked more similar to here: https://science.howstuffworks.com/handw ... lysis1.htm. Can someone find that darn thread?

Maybe someone will do this at some point with the information and pictures that you provide. Thank you for what you have done so far.

One thing I can do if you're interested is shoot a detailed video of the yearbook and post the link here for you. I can snap pictures of all the pages with student entries too if you want. Im not gonna scan the entire yearbook as most of it hasnt been written in and can be viewed online anyway. Its the Glendale High School Stylus 1959. Also, I have started putting together a file for Sullivan on my Facebook. I believe MOST of that stuff Ive posted here but maybe not all. I'll be updating it again here soon. I will add all the letters in the alphabet individually there too. Heres a link. Says you dont need to even have a Facebook account to view it. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 6957e0019f

[Ham Friend]

Incredible similarities !

What are the odds there would be so many similarities with the very limited examples we have of Ross' writing ?

Is this finally it, Ross = Z ?

Thats exactly it; I have only 3 VERY limited sources to pull from and still was able to come up with the stuff I did. Definitely a testament if anything. I only used his selective service form once for the cursive "s"

[smokie treats]

One thing I can do if you're interested is shoot a detailed video of the yearbook and post the link here for you. I can snap pictures of all the pages with student entries too if you want. Im not gonna scan the entire yearbook as most of it hasnt been written in and can be viewed online anyway. Its the Glendale High School Stylus 1959. Also, I have started putting together a file for Sullivan on my Facebook. I believe MOST of that stuff Ive posted here but maybe not all. I'll be updating it again here soon. I will add all the letters in the alphabet individually there too. Heres a link. Says you dont need to even have a Facebook account to view it. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 6957e0019f

I personally do not need a video, but thanks. I can look at the yearbook online if I want to. Just suggesting ways to help people feel comfortable with the yearbook.

[Spiderhawk]

well folks. Here you go. After hours and hours of hard work and research, my alphabet is finally complete. Only missing 4-5 letters. I really had to truncate the file to post here so hopefully it''ll read ok. I can email it out if anyone wants. I havent tilted or rotated any of the letters except where noted. If you find any mistakes please let me know.

That's incredible. Great work Ham.

My interest in RS is peaked, as is my suspicion.

[Ham Friend]

Just stuck with one letter here. I didnt angle any of the letters...

[AK Wilks]

1. Forgive me if I missed it, if so you can just direct me to it. But can you account in detail how you came across this year book, who you got it from, etc?

2. It's difficult to compare cursive writing to print writing, but having said that, many of the similarities are quite interesting. But what can you offer in terms of concrete proof that this is actually Ross Sullivan's handwriting? In other words, is there a reasonable chain of custody and independent evidence you can point to that verifies that this is Ross Sullivan's book and that this is his handwriting?

[Paul_Averly]

1. Forgive me if I missed it, if so you can just direct me to it. But can you account in detail how you came across this year book, who you got it from, etc?

2. It's difficult to compare cursive writing to print writing, but having said that, many of the similarities are quite interesting. But what can you offer in terms of concrete proof that this is actually Ross Sullivan's handwriting? In other words, is there a reasonable chain of custody and independent evidence you can point to that verifies that this is Ross Sullivan's book and that this is his handwriting?

There will probably be no way to prove that Ross actually wrote this and it's a yearbook that was probably passed around. So a chain of custody would be impossible to establish.

The simple logical argument would be, if someone wanted to fake this in order to match Ross to Z, why would they use cursive and forge a small sample to pull from.

Like the SS app, the stimulates are not obvious at first look.