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Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

Zresearch wrote:Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

The odds of someone else later killing and writing letters that match his handwriting are next to zero. If his dna is on her pants, he’s Zodiac.

MMSox wrote:

Zresearch wrote:Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

The odds of someone else later killing and writing letters that match his handwriting are next to zero. If his dna is on her pants, he’s Zodiac.

And if his DNA is not on her pants, and his prints don't match?

Tahoe27 wrote:

MMSox wrote:

Zresearch wrote:Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

The odds of someone else later killing and writing letters that match his handwriting are next to zero. If his dna is on her pants, he’s Zodiac.

And if his DNA is not on her pants, and his prints don't match?

Then he didn’t kill her and he almost certainly wasn’t Zodiac unless the dna from the gloves in Paul’s cab say differently. I don’t have to be right about Sullivan being Zodiac. If he’s not, let’s figure out who is. At the moment, he’s got the most convincing case imo. That’s why so much rests on that dna sample. It will definitely lower the suspect pool.

Zresearch wrote:Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

Not necessarily. It makes him an even better candidate to be Zodiac, but there would need to be more concrete evidence, such as DNA, linking him to the other murders.

Bottom line, get Ross's family DNA to compare to the Bates DNA and Zodiac DNA. If there's no match, he's in the clear. Pretty simple if the cops make it happen

MMSox wrote:

Zresearch wrote:Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

The odds of someone else later killing and writing letters that match his handwriting are next to zero. If his dna is on her pants, he’s Zodiac.

I'll suppose you are correct, the odds would be astronomical.

But can we really link Ross to every zodiac crime scene?

Its possible ross had a partner. One could have been killing while the other could have been writing the letters...though I guess this would just be pure speculation.

My take has been to investigate every scene as an individual crime... at least for now.

Though if ross's DNA is on bates pants, that pretty much pegs him as the bates killer, and makes him the best zodiac suspect.

Pretty Polly wrote:

Zresearch wrote:Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

Not necessarily. It makes him an even better candidate to be Zodiac, but there would need to be more concrete evidence, such as DNA, linking him to the other murders.

My thoughts exactly. It would peg him as the bates killer and as the best zodiac candidate to date, but we would still need some means of connecting him to the other crime scenes, wouldn't we?

Zresearch wrote:

MMSox wrote:

Zresearch wrote:Let's say that it is proven that Ross 100% did kill bates, does this mean that ross was zodiac?

The odds of someone else later killing and writing letters that match his handwriting are next to zero. If his dna is on her pants, he’s Zodiac.

I'll suppose you are correct, the odds would be astronomical.

But can we really link Ross to every zodiac crime scene?

Its possible ross had a partner. One could have been killing while the other could have been writing the letters...though I guess this would just be pure speculation.

My take has been to investigate every scene as an individual crime... at least for now.

Though if ross's DNA is on bates pants, that pretty much pegs him as the bates killer, and makes him the best zodiac suspect.

This is why his dna matching the gloves left in Paul’s cab would be the end. I don’t think you would need to have evidence of him at each scene if his dna is on Cheri’s pants, in Paul’s cab, he matches the sketch, every witness said he was a bigger guy and so on. While it’s an interesting theory that more than one person was Zodiac, all the evidence would point at Ross killing on his own.

MMSox wrote:This is why his dna matching the gloves left in Paul’s cab would be the end.

I'm guessing the first thing they did was check the dna they found on the gloves against Stine's to make sure they weren't his, so that means they either belonged to Zodiac or some other fare left them in the cab.

I don't understand why Zodiac would have gloves, then not use them and leave them behind. I'd say most likely they weren't his gloves that he wore.

That doesn't mean he didn't leave them. I've often wondered if Zodiac sometimes left behind items he took from other murders sort of as a calling card. Things like the gloves in Stine's cab, the watch at CJB's murder site. The bottle or Army jacket at the LB attack. All seem to be unknowns.