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StitchMallone wrote:Twist and turn it anyway you like! Ross don't fit the age.

You are trying to make the claim that there are no witness descriptions that place Z around 30?

I think I see some the problem some members have with witness descriptions. There is the urge to try and pick through the evidence and find the "exact" measurement.
Some members will tell you based on x,y and z, he must have been 5'9 and 3/4" tall exactly. This kind of analysis is a mistake.

If you ask me how old Z was, the answer is simple: No one knows for sure. But there are witness reports from 25 to 45. Attempting to eliminate a suspect on age alone, when he falls in that range, is flat out hubris.

morf13 wrote:

StitchMallone wrote:

Sweetness34 wrote:When I look at all 3 sketches I don't see a "widow's peak". I see a receding hairline. A true widow's peak is low on the forehead and all of the drawings show the distinct beginning of the rounding of the scalp. I have always thought this. In the photo of Ross I do see a widow's peak, but I also see the beginning of a receding hairline. By 1969 Ross' hair could have receded as I am describing. Receding hairlines tend to add years to one's appearance. A 25-35 year old with a premature receding hairline could easily be mistaken for 35-45 years old. Especially at night from a distance. I have always thought this might account for the wide variance in age projections by witnesses.

Twist and turn it anyway you like! Ross don't fit the age.

Same could be said about your POI RH not meeting the barrel chested and stocky profile

Agreed but do have one pic where he looks pretty stocky but that was years later after the Stine sketch. Anyhow I'm serious about the make up angle and would not put it pass Zodiac to have worn make up to make himself look older.

Decided to use one of those "photo to sketch" generators on the Internet to turn Ross's 1959 picture to a sketch. Here is the result:

Thanks for posting

morf13 wrote:Thanks for posting that info. Either way, both sketches look pretty much like each other, and both look a lot like Ross

I don't get this. The question about the origin of this sketch has been brought up and as far as I can see not sufficiently settled.

That's a major concern for me. This sketch is essentially being promoted as a valid Zodiac eye witness description and an investigation tool used by LE. If that is not the case, then doesn't that call it's credibility and usefulness into question?

It seems like you are here dismissing that with the idea that the credibility of the sketch doesn't matter simply because it "looks pretty much like" the other one? Is that a misinterpretation of your words?

So why compare Ross to this sketch at all, if he supposedly resembles the known to be authenticated sketch? My only conclusion is that you think he looks more like this other sketch, and so it's more useful.

Why not compare the other questionable Zodiac sketches that there are?

duckking2001 wrote:

morf13 wrote:Thanks for posting that info. Either way, both sketches look pretty much like each other, and both look a lot like Ross

I don't get this. The question about the origin of this sketch has been brought up and as far as I can see not sufficiently settled.

That's a major concern for me. This sketch is essentially being promoted as a valid Zodiac eye witness description and an investigation tool used by LE. If that is not the case, then doesn't that call it's credibility and usefulness into question?

It seems like you are here dismissing that with the idea that the credibility of the sketch doesn't matter simply because it "looks pretty much like" the other one? Is that a misinterpretation of your words?

So why compare Ross to this sketch at all, if he supposedly resembles the known to be authenticated sketch? My only conclusion is that you think he looks more like this other sketch, and so it's more useful.

Why not compare the other questionable Zodiac sketches that there are?

Both of these sketches look like Ross. PERIOD. In the zodiac side by side sketch, there is an original and an amended one. They amended it to look more accurate as per the witnesses. The amended one certainly looks more like Ross, but as per witnesses, looks more like Zodiac too. Bottom line, both the famous well known side by side sketches, and this lesser seen one look like Ross. I can't change that. He is the closest match to either of those sketches ever seen. Whether or not Ross was Zodiac, that can't be disputed, it is what it is. He is the closest likeness ever of any suspect to those sketches

morf13 wrote: He is the closest match to either of those sketches ever seen. Whether or not Ross was Zodiac, that can't be disputed, it is what it is. He is the closest likeness ever of any suspect to those sketches

Yes. There is no doubt that old photo of Ross put in between the two Zodiac sketches, in my opinion, is damn close.

The only way to truly judge is to have someone who actually saw Zodiac (of course) look at the 1969 Ross.

Tahoe27 wrote:

morf13 wrote: He is the closest match to either of those sketches ever seen. Whether or not Ross was Zodiac, that can't be disputed, it is what it is. He is the closest likeness ever of any suspect to those sketches

Yes. There is no doubt that old photo of Ross put in between the two Zodiac sketches, in my opinion, is damn close.

The only way to truly judge is to have someone who actually saw Zodiac (of course) look at the 1969 Ross.

Hoping that happens soon

morf13 wrote:

Tahoe27 wrote:

morf13 wrote: He is the closest match to either of those sketches ever seen. Whether or not Ross was Zodiac, that can't be disputed, it is what it is. He is the closest likeness ever of any suspect to those sketches

Yes. There is no doubt that old photo of Ross put in between the two Zodiac sketches, in my opinion, is damn close.

The only way to truly judge is to have someone who actually saw Zodiac (of course) look at the 1969 Ross.

Hoping that happens soon

Is Donald Fouke still alive?

^^He is, but what throws me about him is his description...then later saying Zodiac resembled Larry Kane.