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StitchMallone wrote:I agree does look like the sketch! Here is why I don't agree! Ross looks very young to even come close to match the Stine sketch at the time. What the pic don't show is all the wrinkles and etc Ross doesn't have compared to the Zodiac sketch at the time. Just my opinion. Add ten years from Ross's pic and still don't see him having any of the forehead wrinkles and etc.

He might would if he gained weight up to 250 or 260lbs then lost down to 210 or 215. He also seemed to live a hard life.
That type of thing can age a person. I've got a theory that if it is indeed Sullivan, he lost massive amounts of weights to kill. Anti Psychotic medications cause weight gain like crazy. They also loose weight very fast when they come off of them. While Sullivan was being treated, he didn't kill, and put on the pounds. When he left the hospital, he would go back to killing, and lose a bunch of weight to concel his identity.

As someone who at 6ft2 260 runs 5k.
Let me assure you folks the weight would not prevent his ability to commit the crimes.

I don't think anyone is doubting his ability to do the crimes, just whether someone that large fits any of the eyewitness descriptions.

morf13 wrote:

YourSecretPal wrote:Where is the lesser known sketch from? and wasn't Ross A Lot heavier in the late 60's?
Certainly heavier than who Kathleen John's identified as Zodiac. Maybe she was way off but I think she said like 160lbs

That sketch was one that was not heavily circulated. Ross according to a man that had a run in with him in 1968 or so, he said that Ross was in the 260's

Anyone remember what the 'official' provenance on this was? morf when you say not heavily circulated are you saying that it was actually circulated? Wonder why it wasn't countersigned like the official ones released by SFPD. FWIW it appears in the Fincher documentary 'This is the Zodiac Speaking'.Was that where we first saw/became aware of it?

traveller1st wrote:

morf13 wrote:

YourSecretPal wrote:Where is the lesser known sketch from? and wasn't Ross A Lot heavier in the late 60's?
Certainly heavier than who Kathleen John's identified as Zodiac. Maybe she was way off but I think she said like 160lbs

That sketch was one that was not heavily circulated. Ross according to a man that had a run in with him in 1968 or so, he said that Ross was in the 260's

Anyone remember what the 'official' provenance on this was? morf when you say not heavily circulated are you saying that it was actually circulated? Wonder why it wasn't countersigned like the official ones released by SFPD. FWIW it appears in the Fincher documentary 'This is the Zodiac Speaking'.Was that where we first saw/became aware of it?

I can't even remember now Trav. The first time I ever saw it was on a documentary(forget which one)hanging on a wall at SFPD

Sure seems like it was revised/updated by someone in LE (S.F.?) later on. I don't think it was some random "Joe"...could be wrong though. I'm looking, but, you know how that goes!

traveller1st wrote:

morf13 wrote:

YourSecretPal wrote:Where is the lesser known sketch from? and wasn't Ross A Lot heavier in the late 60's?
Certainly heavier than who Kathleen John's identified as Zodiac. Maybe she was way off but I think she said like 160lbs

That sketch was one that was not heavily circulated. Ross according to a man that had a run in with him in 1968 or so, he said that Ross was in the 260's

Anyone remember what the 'official' provenance on this was? morf when you say not heavily circulated are you saying that it was actually circulated? Wonder why it wasn't countersigned like the official ones released by SFPD. FWIW it appears in the Fincher documentary 'This is the Zodiac Speaking'.Was that where we first saw/became aware of it?

I might be completely wrong, but I think I heard that sketch was actually made by a modern day sketch artist while doing research for the 2007 Zodiac movie and the documentaries. The old sketch has been criticized for not being done by a good artist.

They re-interviewed most of the witnesses and updated the old sketch and made it much more accurate.

Morf, I'll PM you the person who would know.

I think you maybe right Paul and they had a lot of extras like that in the dvd version.

I'm almost positive that sketch is old,not newly created

According to TF's post (below) it was/is the 'alleged' Fouke sketch. I think I do remember it being on a wall in an interview somewhere but I couldn't swear by that.



Theforeigner, Subject: Re: Age difference? Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:27 pm


Why are people, over and over again, using the 1st provided Oct 11, 1969 Zodiac sketch when there actually is a 2nd one avaible, which was actually emproved by the Stine murder witnesses, to make a sketch that was more accurate???

I just don´t understand that at all!

Here is the emproved 2nd Zodiac sketch published Oct 18, 1969, and beside it the alleged Foulke sketch.

IMO they seem to be very much alike and aprox the same age, I would say in his 40s.