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Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:46 pm
by Seagull
Today I received Tim Sullivan's marriage license. I was very surprised to learn that the witness to the marriage was a man from Napa. Patrick T Kane was born in 1921 and obviously much older than either the bride or groom. He is no longer living, having died in 1983. Lots of speculation could be made of this revelation.

Here is the license-

Tim Sullivan marriage license.png


Here is a record for the witness giving his name with the same address that is on the license-

Tim Sullivan marr. witness.PNG


Here is the CA death record for the witness-

Tim Sullivan marr. witness 2.PNG

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:53 pm
by Tahoe27
Kane speculation by some too. :?

Good job getting this so quickly Seagull.

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:24 pm
by morf13
Wow great Job Seagull....HMM the plot thickens.... :o

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:33 pm
by morf13
Patrick T. Kane in 1970 SF Directory,2 miles from Washington & Cherry,,,same guy?

Paul Stine lived at 1842 Fell st in 1969 :shock: Less than half a mile? There is one born in 1921 & one in 1924

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:59 pm
by Seagull
What I'm finding on the Napa end is that a Katherine Kane was listed in the Napa Polk's Directory, where I began my search, at that 3648 Linda Vista address from 1966 until 1979 when there are no more of the directories available on line. Looking at her California Death Index Record, her maiden name is Fosse, the same as Patrick T Kane's mother's maiden name. He must have used his mother's address as his permanent address. Patrick is not listed in any of the Napa directories that I looked at. So a San Francisco address does not seem out of the question for Patrick.

If you notice it was Bonnie that had a San Francisco address and Tim had a Riverside address on the license.

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:19 pm
by murray
Great work on this, Seagull.

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:26 am
by JeffP
Can we do a reverse look up for 5599 Corwin Dr. Riverside, Ca to see who lived there in 1966?

Also, they got married at City Hall, isn't it likely that they eloped and the witness worked there?

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:27 am
by doranchak
Thanks for posting this, Seagull!

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:38 am
by morf13
JeffP wrote:Can we do a reverse look up for 5599 Corwin Dr. Riverside, Ca to see who lived there in 1966?

Also, they got married at City Hall, isn't it likely that they eloped and the witness worked there?


If we could find a 66 Polks that lists him, it may have his job listed

Re: Tim Sullivan

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:39 pm
by Seagull
JeffP wrote:Can we do a reverse look up for 5599 Corwin Dr. Riverside, Ca to see who lived there in 1966?

Also, they got married at City Hall, isn't it likely that they eloped and the witness worked there?


After doing an enormous amount of research on Patrick T Kane, the witness, I think that JeffP nailed it with thinking that Kane worked at city hall. It turns out that Kane was a court reporter and very likely was in the right place at the right time to have witnessed the marriage.

As for the 5599 Corwin address, I cannot find any online directories for the address. Ancestry's directories for Riverside only go up to 1955 and that street didn't exist then. The Riverside County Recorder's office online records go back to 1980, way too late to find out anything definite. I was able to find the parcel number for the property and that didn't do me any good either.