Re: People that knew Ross
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:01 pmTalked to a Guy that lived at the 512 Address that Ross lived at. This Guy is one of the names we established lived there in the same building late 60's /early 70's,I will not share his name.
He relayed the following:
*The info he is relaying is from circa 1970
*He did not know Ross as a Friend or from living in the building.
*Circa,1970, Ross showed up to this house. There were several people living in this building, that was more like a house with rooms called apartments,as opposed to a Apartment bldg.
*Ross, was recognized by a couple people in the house, as a local 'weirdo'.
*The informant thought Ross lived around on the streets or in a 'halfway house',or YMCA, or something similar.
*The informant stated that Ross freely came into the house, and in to one of the 'apartments'
*While there in the apartment, Ross became irrational, and was caught eating a stick of butter. When confronted, he pulled a knife from the drawer and came after one of the residents,and tried to stab him. He wound up embedding the knife in the doorway frame. The Resident was barely able to get out and they all made it outside, and called police.
*When Police came, they knew Ross,as if he was a regular with them. They asked Ross to go with them,and he did not resist.
*This man mentioned that Ross was also singing Beatles songs the whole time.
*Physically, he said, he thought Ross was less than 300 pounds, maybe more like 250-260, but he said that Ross definitely had a belly or gut.
*He said that Ross looked identical to the photos I sent of him(the ones we have from the yearbook that we have)
*He said that Ross, in his opinion, was completely mentally gone. He had a general knowledge of the Zodiac case, and thought that Z would have to have some faculties to write letters to the police,etc,something he did not think Ross had.
*His entire experience with Ross,before & after the knife incident, was over a period of about 3 weeks. He did not know that Ross had lived in the same apartment building until he got my letter and we talked. He felt that Ross may have come back there because he knew the place.
*He said he never saw Ross drive,only walk around town
This was all aprox circa 1970.
Not too long after,not sure of a date, this person went to visit a Friend who had schizophrenia at Agnews Hospital,and was shocked that he ran into Ross there. Hospital Staff wasked him if he wanted to visit with Ross,and even though he didn't really know Ross he said yes. He said that he thought Ross might be more coherent with care & meds,but he wasn't. He was still singing Beatles songs and banging on a piano,etc. That was the last time he saw Ross.He also told me that the Friend he knew with Schizophrenia, when on meds, would have periods of normalcy, and clarity
This info leaves me wondering if Ross could be Zodiac. If he was really that far gone and out of it, could he author the Z letters. This informant thought the year he met Ross was in 1970,and if he's right,could Ross be mentally out of it in 1970,walking around Santa Cruz, and still be writing letters in San Fran from April to October,as Zodiac did?
I think this is a blow against Ross being Zodiac. I am not ready to write Ross off, but this info has to be considered.
The couple things we learned from this is, Ross did look exactly the same as the photos we have from 1959, and he may have been south of 300lbs. Also, the knife incident proves he wasn't a 'harmless' teddybear.
He relayed the following:
*The info he is relaying is from circa 1970
*He did not know Ross as a Friend or from living in the building.
*Circa,1970, Ross showed up to this house. There were several people living in this building, that was more like a house with rooms called apartments,as opposed to a Apartment bldg.
*Ross, was recognized by a couple people in the house, as a local 'weirdo'.
*The informant thought Ross lived around on the streets or in a 'halfway house',or YMCA, or something similar.
*The informant stated that Ross freely came into the house, and in to one of the 'apartments'
*While there in the apartment, Ross became irrational, and was caught eating a stick of butter. When confronted, he pulled a knife from the drawer and came after one of the residents,and tried to stab him. He wound up embedding the knife in the doorway frame. The Resident was barely able to get out and they all made it outside, and called police.
*When Police came, they knew Ross,as if he was a regular with them. They asked Ross to go with them,and he did not resist.
*This man mentioned that Ross was also singing Beatles songs the whole time.
*Physically, he said, he thought Ross was less than 300 pounds, maybe more like 250-260, but he said that Ross definitely had a belly or gut.
*He said that Ross looked identical to the photos I sent of him(the ones we have from the yearbook that we have)
*He said that Ross, in his opinion, was completely mentally gone. He had a general knowledge of the Zodiac case, and thought that Z would have to have some faculties to write letters to the police,etc,something he did not think Ross had.
*His entire experience with Ross,before & after the knife incident, was over a period of about 3 weeks. He did not know that Ross had lived in the same apartment building until he got my letter and we talked. He felt that Ross may have come back there because he knew the place.
*He said he never saw Ross drive,only walk around town
This was all aprox circa 1970.
Not too long after,not sure of a date, this person went to visit a Friend who had schizophrenia at Agnews Hospital,and was shocked that he ran into Ross there. Hospital Staff wasked him if he wanted to visit with Ross,and even though he didn't really know Ross he said yes. He said that he thought Ross might be more coherent with care & meds,but he wasn't. He was still singing Beatles songs and banging on a piano,etc. That was the last time he saw Ross.He also told me that the Friend he knew with Schizophrenia, when on meds, would have periods of normalcy, and clarity
This info leaves me wondering if Ross could be Zodiac. If he was really that far gone and out of it, could he author the Z letters. This informant thought the year he met Ross was in 1970,and if he's right,could Ross be mentally out of it in 1970,walking around Santa Cruz, and still be writing letters in San Fran from April to October,as Zodiac did?
I think this is a blow against Ross being Zodiac. I am not ready to write Ross off, but this info has to be considered.
The couple things we learned from this is, Ross did look exactly the same as the photos we have from 1959, and he may have been south of 300lbs. Also, the knife incident proves he wasn't a 'harmless' teddybear.