People that knew Ross

[JeffP]

Via http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.p ... 595#p16595

Now as to Ross Sullivan's fingerprints. Just found a reference- no time so lucky I found it as I wanted to quote it:"Toschi said he cleared Sullivan's prints against Riverside's and Stine's cab at my [Peterson] request."
Riverside PD did the same and he was cleared. Also, RSPD claims his alibi was tight ,as they confirmed it. Remember, at that point they were not overtly obsessed with BB.
The Timex watch band -buckled-but torn from watch face- circumference does not match that of a large built person such as Ross Sullivan.

Where did bruce3 get that info?

Where does this quote come from. I click the link and it didn't take to the quote only to your posting it. On Tom Voights site not that long ago, Bruce once gave a very detailed explanation on why he didn't think Ross was the killer and he didn't include this information at all.

[Norse]

Where did bruce3 get that info?

To put it point blank I don't trust "bruce3" implicitly. He doesn't present his finds in a manner which is particularly trustworthy. Whether that is down to him being a generally somewhat messy presenter of facts, or down to something else, is not for me to say. But there it is.

[Paul_Averly]

Where did bruce3 get that info?

To put it point blank I don't trust "bruce3" implicitly. He doesn't present his finds in a manner which is particularly trustworthy. Whether that is down to him being a generally somewhat messy presenter of facts, or down to something else, is not for me to say. But there it is.

That was NOT Bruce3's original quote. It didn't say anything about fingerprints. Only that Toschi asked Riverside about Ross.

[doranchak]

Where does this quote come from. I click the link and it didn't take to the quote only to your posting it. On Tom Voights site not that long ago, Bruce once gave a very detailed explanation on why he didn't think Ross was the killer and he didn't include this information at all.

My mistake - I've fixed the link.

http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.p ... 595#p16595

[JeffP]

Where did bruce3 get that info?

To put it point blank I don't trust "bruce3" implicitly. He doesn't present his finds in a manner which is particularly trustworthy. Whether that is down to him being a generally somewhat messy presenter of facts, or down to something else, is not for me to say. But there it is.

That was NOT Bruce3's original quote. It didn't say anything about fingerprints. Only that Toschi asked Riverside about Ross.

[bitterbeatpoet]

i live 90 miles from Chicago. i could get in my car, leisurely drive to Chicago,
rob a bank and easily be back home for dinner. i have no cellphone and
i don't stop to buy gas or i don't take the toll road. how does anyone prove
i was in Chicago for the afternoon 45 years later. get real. most all of what
we are reasonably going to establish about Ross at this point is speculation
or circumstantial. could some of you folks quit the Sgt. Friday routine?

That's utterly irrelevant.

This isn't about keeping someone alive as a suspect in the case. That's easily done. Look at the list of "suspects" associated with the Z case, many of whom are still being - precisely - kept alive by their proponents because nobody can prove there is no connection.
my point was only how difficult it will be to PROVE Ross's connection as
to proximity to the crimes around Vallejo. he drove a car, stayed at the Y,
and Gerald Katz said lived all over San Fran. where do we go from here?
eyewitnesses, phone records, etc isn't going to be happening. why couldn't
he have driven up from Santa Cruz and slept in his car for a few days?
The latter is neither here nor there. It's not a valid argument. I can't prove that my grandfather was NOT in Vallejo on the 4th of July 1969.

[Norse]

That was NOT Bruce3's original quote. It didn't say anything about fingerprints. Only that Toschi asked Riverside about Ross.

Quite possible. I was just commenting on "Bruce3" and his general credibility, if you will.

[morf13]

Not saying I don't trust Howard, but I have to see something like that statement with my own eyes.


We have seen countless times in the FBI Files, that Napa,Vallejo,and SF sent prints to the FBI of suspects to be compared to zodiac's. The FBI could find no records in their system pertaining to Ross Sullivan. Does that mean they never had one, or didn't check Ross's prints? I don't know,I just know they didn't have any record of it. The same could not be said of Rick Marshall or Larry Cane,they had files on both of those guys when I wrote to them. In fact, they even went into details about Marshall's stating that he had been a Zodiac suspect, and that his file had just been recently purged

[bitterbeatpoet]

sorry Norse, my post got messed up for some reason. this was my response.
my point was only how difficult it will be to PROVE Ross's connection as
to proximity to the crimes around Vallejo. he drove a car, stayed at the Y,
and Gerald Katz said lived all over San Fran. where do we go from here?
eyewitnesses, phone records, etc aren't going to be happening. why couldn't
he have driven up from Santa Cruz and slept in his car for a few days?

[bitterbeatpoet]

Not saying I don't trust Howard, but I have to see something like that statement with my own eyes.


We have seen countless times in the FBI Files, that Napa,Vallejo,and SF sent prints to the FBI of suspects to be compared to zodiac's. The FBI could find no records in their system pertaining to Ross Sullivan. Does that mean they never had one, or didn't check Ross's prints? I don't know,I just know they didn't have any record of it. The same could not be said of Rick Marshall or Larry Cane,they had files on both of those guys when I wrote to them. In fact, they even went into details about Marshall's stating that he had been a Zodiac suspect, and that his file had just been recently purged

so it would appear my argument that Santa Cruz PD never seriously looked
at him as a suspect is correct?