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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby marie » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:59 pm

One last thing of interest that I don't think has been posted before is when Harold "left" the Binghamton YMCA, listed in an article dated September 4, 1957. I personally find some of the wording a bit cryptic, "Mr. Sullivan's plans will take him to another part of the country," as though he was fired or encouraged to leave, but did not want it public knowledge where he was moving to, or why.

(Also, Harriet did not go with him at that point, but stayed on in Binghamton-see my recent post in the Harriet Sullivan thread).

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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby bitterbeatpoet » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:01 pm

Tahoe27 wrote:Yes, I communicated with Jon back in February of 2014. He was the one who told me Ross was schizophrenic and didn't know him to be violent.


delusional???? or flat-out lying! first thing we hear about is Ross
killing sheep with a knife in 1966. in '68 he's arrested for assaulting
someone in a phone booth. sometime not long after, Ross tries to
stab someone with a knife at his old apt. how much more is there
that we don't know about? also, the librarians were scared to death
of him in '66. his brother is a liar folks. and now, he's obstructing
this case. so, who's going to apologize for him? let me guess.....
i'm not saying Ross was Z, but obviouly he was violent.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby Tahoe27 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:49 pm

bitterbeatpoet wrote:
Tahoe27 wrote:Yes, I communicated with Jon back in February of 2014. He was the one who told me Ross was schizophrenic and didn't know him to be violent.


delusional???? or flat-out lying! first thing we hear about is Ross
killing sheep with a knife in 1966. in '68 he's arrested for assaulting
someone in a phone booth. sometime not long after, Ross tries to
stab someone with a knife at his old apt. how much more is there
that we don't know about? also, the librarians were scared to death
of him in '66. his brother is a liar folks. and now, he's obstructing
this case. so, who's going to apologize for him? let me guess.....
i'm not saying Ross was Z, but obviouly he was violent.


**We don't know the full story behind the sheep--that has been discussed.
**He never assaulted anyone in a phone booth.

I think for you to come on here and make posts like this is wrong. He obviously had mental issues, but to come on here and call his brother a liar?? He quite possibly didn't know the issue in the apartment. He didn't believe his brother to be a violent man! It doesn't mean he is lying. And, to say he is obstructing the case? Why, because some here hot on Ross want the man's DNA?? :roll:
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby Tahoe27 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:52 pm

Remember folks--we'll never get cooperation with posts like that! Should he read this site...
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby Marshall » Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:29 pm

Tahoe27 wrote:Remember folks--we'll never get cooperation with posts like that! Should he read this site...


This post, and the one directly above it, are excellent. Agree 100% and thanks for posting them.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby bitterbeatpoet » Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:58 am

OK, Ross was obviously harmless and his brother is a nice guy.
thanks so much for setting me and the record straight.
you've just made me realize that i know nothing about
this case. i guess Ross was just too crazy to be a threat to
anyone. as far as his brother Jon, how could he know
anything about all of this? he was just his brother's "keeper."
how could he have been privy to police reports or
psychiatric evaluations?
now if i could just figure out how to discredit Gerald Katz
and Tim Sullivan? maybe you can help me with that too?
and maybe you can apologize for the SCPD who obviously
knew Ross was violent. they couldn't have seen the artist's
renderings of Z after the murder of Paul Stine? maybe they
too thought he was too crazy to be a threat to anyone?
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby doranchak » Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:27 am

bitterbeatpoet wrote:OK, Ross was obviously harmless and his brother is a nice guy.
thanks so much for setting me and the record straight.
you've just made me realize that i know nothing about
this case. i guess Ross was just too crazy to be a threat to
anyone. as far as his brother Jon, how could he know
anything about all of this? he was just his brother's "keeper."
how could he have been privy to police reports or
psychiatric evaluations?
now if i could just figure out how to discredit Gerald Katz
and Tim Sullivan? maybe you can help me with that too?
and maybe you can apologize for the SCPD who obviously
knew Ross was violent. they couldn't have seen the artist's
renderings of Z after the murder of Paul Stine? maybe they
too thought he was too crazy to be a threat to anyone?


Are you going to continue to make pointless posts like this? If so, maybe you need to go somewhere else. This is not helping anyone here. Instead of adding to the discussion, you are making it more difficult to get anything done.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby bitterbeatpoet » Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:51 am

pointing out very strong circumstantial evidence is pointless?
that's interesting. one more case of no fingerprints, no DNA, but
your opinions are valid and someone else's are "pointless."
once again, thanks for straightening me out.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby morf13 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:52 am

bitterbeatpoet wrote:pointing out very strong circumstantial evidence is pointless?
that's interesting. one more case of no fingerprints, no DNA, but
your opinions are valid and someone else's are "pointless."
once again, thanks for straightening me out.



Those kinds of sarcastic posts are not helpful. Please refrain from them. I know you think Ross could be Z, and so do I,but the focus should be on finding People that knew him, and getting more info about him to help rule him in or out as being Z
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby up2something » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:30 am

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It would have been nice if "speculation" had been spelled correctly, but you get the point.
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