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up2something wrote:

I don't think Zodiac killed Bates, because of the Modus Operandi - the killer was very close to the victim and struggled phisically with her, which does not fit Zodiac's MO(the use of a gun)

What about Shepard and Hartnell?

Remember that he brought a gun to restrain them on the spot - like the other cases, a gun is present. Also, it was a public park and was still sunny, so people could have heard gunshots and be curious enough to check out what was going on - I believe this is why he did not used the gun. He did not stabbed them to much to ensure that they were dead - I believe this shows inexperience at using a knife to kill. Also, if we assume Zodiac killed Bates, why there was no cutting of the throat at Lake Berryessa? If he did it before and the victim died, he would do it again - yet he did not. Which leads me to believe that he did not killed Bates, but could have been responsible for the letters and the desktop poem.

Ross knew Bates. She could’ve rejected his advances. That would explain how vicious he was in killing her and not the others (in comparison to her).

The car being disabled? Zodiac
Killing in a secluded area? Zodiac
Military boots? Zodiac
Taunting letters? Zodiac

I’m not sure why people try thinking it wasn’t him, especially after he gave them credit for stumbling upon it. The only difference between her and the other victims was the brutality. To me, that indicates it was personal and not “killing because it’s fun.”

MMSox wrote:Ross knew Bates. She could’ve rejected his advances. That would explain how vicious he was in killing her and not the others (in comparison to her).

The car being disabled? Zodiac
Killing in a secluded area? Zodiac
Military boots? Zodiac
Taunting letters? Zodiac

I’m not sure why people try thinking it wasn’t him, especially after he gave them credit for stumbling upon it. The only difference between her and the other victims was the brutality. To me, that indicates it was personal and not “killing because it’s fun.”

The only time he disabled a car was with Kathleen Johns. If you think Zodiac was involved with that incident...he's not Ross.

Wasn’t her first identification of her abductor the police sketch that looks an awful lot like Ross?

MMSox wrote:Wasn’t her first identification of her abductor the police sketch that looks an awful lot like Ross?

She saw the composite and thought that was the man...although the composite (to me) always looked like some frail old guy (j/k...he just has a skinny neck), it was her later description that would rule Ross out.

I could be wrong, but didn’t she change the description twice? From the sketch to Kane to someone else? Maybe eager police had a guy that they wanted to fit? I guess she could be making it all up as well.

MMSox wrote:I could be wrong, but didn’t she change the description twice? From the sketch to Kane to someone else? Maybe eager police had a guy that they wanted to fit? I guess she could be making it all up as well.

She described his physical appearance it great detail...and it's recorded. Ross doesn't fit the bill. If one chooses not to believe her, he could be a 5' black man.

If Ross was 300 pounds (6 Feet, 2 inches), I don't consider that to be fat fat.

Here is link to a guy who is 6.2 and 290 pounds http://height-weight-chart.com/heightweight.html

You can mix and match here http://height-weight-chart.com/heightweight.html

My point was, she could be lying. Ross and Lawrence look nothing at all alike. To change that drastically is worrisome. Also, Ross hid his weight at 260 rather well. I’ve shown the picture of him squatting to several who have no idea who he is and they all guessed between 180-220. The closest guess was 40 pounds from his presumed weight. Yes, he would look overweight at 300, but his massive frame would keep him from looking obese.

MMSox wrote:My point was, she could be lying. Ross and Lawrence look nothing at all alike. To change that drastically is worrisome. Also, Ross hid his weight at 260 rather well. I’ve shown the picture of him squatting to several who have no idea who he is and they all guessed between 180-220. The closest guess was 40 pounds from his presumed weight. Yes, he would look overweight at 300, but his massive frame would keep him from looking obese.

Well, if you think she lied about it...anything goes.