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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby StitchMallone » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:54 pm

Ps. you wrote facts are facts and Ross looks way more like the sketch then anyone. Those aren't facts and perceptions and peoples opinions. Will agree though him and The Beard POI look very good matching the sketch for a heavier version of the sketch. I would rule ALA though alone because of the sketch. I can't say that about Ross.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby morf13 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:30 am

StitchMallone wrote:Morf nothing against Ross and think he is a great suspect and see why he is look into. Sorry though if we are going by the Stine sketch my POI Raymond Huffman is the best I ever see and maybe I'm bias. Also think even Van Best and Peter O and etc look way more like the sketch then Ross. Ross does look good for a way heavier version of the sketch. That said sketches are usually not that close most of the times. Ross looks way better then ALA though and can still see him being the Zodiac.


Yeah, all I can say is, if you think Earl Van Best looks more like Z than Ross, then you may be time for an eye exam. I am interested in Huffman too based on his background, initials(desktop),etc but he too doesn't have a distinct widow's peak hairline. Ross does. We can argue height, weight,age, but we can not argue distinct widow's peak hairlines. Fouke was very specific, and Zodiac had it. (Van Best had male pattern baldness)POI's and suspects in this case either have it or they don't. Ross had it. Ross was in the RCC library, that also gives him a leg up on anybody else. If ANYBODY out there on this planet Earth with a Zodiac suspect ever linked them to that RCC library they would shout that connection to the Heavens, but as we know, there's only one suspect ever linked to that library....Ross Sullivan, same guy with the Widow's peak hairline
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby wesley_whit » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:11 am

I don't like Ross for Z at all but I think it is almost undeniable that he is a dead ringer for the sketch. The only person I would say looks closer is that guy the psychic kid from Norway dug up.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby YourSecretPal » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:47 pm

? Who did a psychic kid from Norway come up with? Don't remember seeing that...
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby StitchMallone » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:15 pm

morf13 wrote:
StitchMallone wrote:Morf nothing against Ross and think he is a great suspect and see why he is look into. Sorry though if we are going by the Stine sketch my POI Raymond Huffman is the best I ever see and maybe I'm bias. Also think even Van Best and Peter O and etc look way more like the sketch then Ross. Ross does look good for a way heavier version of the sketch. That said sketches are usually not that close most of the times. Ross looks way better then ALA though and can still see him being the Zodiac.


Yeah, all I can say is, if you think Earl Van Best looks more like Z than Ross, then you may be time for an eye exam. I am interested in Huffman too based on his background, initials(desktop),etc but he too doesn't have a distinct widow's peak hairline. Ross does. We can argue height, weight,age, but we can not argue distinct widow's peak hairlines. Fouke was very specific, and Zodiac had it. (Van Best had male pattern baldness)POI's and suspects in this case either have it or they don't. Ross had it. Ross was in the RCC library, that also gives him a leg up on anybody else. If ANYBODY out there on this planet Earth with a Zodiac suspect ever linked them to that RCC library they would shout that connection to the Heavens, but as we know, there's only one suspect ever linked to that library....Ross Sullivan, same guy with the Widow's peak hairline
Lol haha Morf and got my eyes check last year and doc said not to bad. I agree that Ross does have the widows peak and not many suspect have that but my Ray does as well. With Ross though sorry it is the age and weight that to me don't resemble the sketch. Again sketches very rarely look identical to the person and wouldn't rule Ross out but saying he looks identical I don't see it and just my opinion.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby StitchMallone » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:25 pm

Crazy thing is most of the top suspects don't resemble the sketch much at all. ALA, Marshall, Kane and etc. Ross does look better then all them and will say that. Yet they was looked into by LE a lot. which tells me LE didn't take the sketch that serious to be the tell all.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby SillyBilly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:48 pm

morf13 wrote:Yeah, all I can say is, if you think Earl Van Best looks more like Z than Ross, then you may be time for an eye exam. I am interested in Huffman too based on his background, initials(desktop),etc but he too doesn't have a distinct widow's peak hairline. Ross does. We can argue height, weight,age, but we can not argue distinct widow's peak hairlines. Fouke was very specific, and Zodiac had it. (Van Best had male pattern baldness)POI's and suspects in this case either have it or they don't. Ross had it. Ross was in the RCC library, that also gives him a leg up on anybody else. If ANYBODY out there on this planet Earth with a Zodiac suspect ever linked them to that RCC library they would shout that connection to the Heavens, but as we know, there's only one suspect ever linked to that library....Ross Sullivan, same guy with the Widow's peak hairline


IMO, the sketch went get us into nowhere, since many men looked like that at the time if you look at yearbooks and photos of the time - I think it is not great evidence. Besides that, the weight and the height of Ross is very different from Zodiac's description in Stine's murder - I think the witnesses would not miss out on the distinctive weight (in the case of Ross, morbid obesity) or the height of a person. About Riverside CC: I don't think Zodiac killed Bates, because of the Modus Operandi - the killer was very close to the victim and struggled phisically with her, which does not fit Zodiac's MO(the use of a gun). But the desktop poem shows us that he was there at the time - in regards to "The Confession" and the "Had to Die" letters, my opinion is inconclusive in regards to "was he the author or not?" question. The "riverside activity" which Zodiac alluded to could be a reference to the desktop poem or to him being at Riverside, not the act of killing.


? Who did a psychic kid from Norway come up with? Don't remember seeing that...


Never heard about that also. Could someone post some info about it?
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby Paul_Averly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 pm

SillyBilly wrote:IMO, the sketch went get us into nowhere


OK...

The thing everyone needs to remember is that many of us who became interested in Ross as a suspect had very little to do with his look. REMEMBER THIS IS THE TIMELINE THREAD. And that timeline is what makes Ross a great suspect.

Most of us who zeroed in on Ross had worked the timeline of Zodiac out before hand. So all we needed to do was find a suspect who fit into the progression of the Z timeline.

To me, the one thing that would clear Ross as a suspect the most definitively, would be to prove the desktop poem is not Zodiac. Many people don't think it is, sure, but there are many good reasons to believe Z started out in Riverside and was inside that library.

The top suspects, all failed to link to the library first, then most were laughed off by witnesses who saw Z.
With Ross, the resemblance to the sketch is just icing on the cake.
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby wesley_whit » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:55 am

YourSecretPal wrote:? Who did a psychic kid from Norway come up with? Don't remember seeing that...

http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/6 ... UjUzhMrIqI
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Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

Postby up2something » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:18 am

I don't think Zodiac killed Bates, because of the Modus Operandi - the killer was very close to the victim and struggled phisically with her, which does not fit Zodiac's MO(the use of a gun)


What about Shepard and Hartnell?
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