Page 2 of 20

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:59 pm
by bitterbeatpoet
his breakdowns could have been precipitated by guilt.
he was obviously raised as a Christian. then throw in a good
dose of fear over getting caught. those two things alone
would be enough to make most anybody have a breakdown.

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:59 pm
by ophion1031
Paul, this is a long shot but... that newspaper article of the two guys being busted that I posted in another thread had ties to a town a little north of Vallejo. I forget which town, but if the one guy can be contacted that might help. One guy is dead as of 2004 and I can't find the other guy. But the lived at the same address as Ross but a different apartment I would assume. Maybe Ross was friends with these guys.

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:59 pm
by morf13
Paul_Averly wrote:1) Worth noting something else that no one seems to mention. Ross seems to leave Riverside shortly after the Confession Letter. After Ross moves to Santa Cruz in 1967, Riverside Zodiac letters stop forever. If this was a copycat, letters still stop. Kind of the other end of the gaps in the bay area letters.

2) Ross moved from Riverside to Santa Cruz. If he was Z, he would need to have some connection to Vallejo/Napa that started in 1968. It would make a lot of sense that it was his arrest around 2/68, that sent him to Napa State Hospital (for a short say, or on and off treatment). Agnews is a bit more serious. He was probably sent there in Dec 1970, since that seems to be when his mental health really starts to deteriorate and matches up well with the gap in letters from 1971-1974.


'If' Zodiac wrote the RCC desk poem & Bates letters, and then moved to the SF bay area after the 1967 Bates letters,and started the Z crimes, then we know he was in the RCC Library, and we know what he looked like from the Stine sketch. Realistically, how long a list is it of Guys that looked just like the sketch, were in the RCC Library, and then headed north after the 67 Bates letters?? A very short list we can assume, which is why Ross is so appealing and worth looking at until we can rule him out completely.

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:05 pm
by bitterbeatpoet
and if he was in the library that night, knew who she was and the
car she drove, wouldn't it seem he went out and pulled the coil wire
and then waited for her?

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:08 pm
by morf13
bitterbeatpoet wrote:and if he was in the library that night, knew who she was and the
car she drove, wouldn't it seem he went out and pulled the coil wire
and then waited for her?


If the confession letter writer was really Cheri's killer, he places himself in the library that night....IF he is telling the truth

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:15 pm
by Mr lowe
Paul_Averly wrote:1) Worth noting something else that no one seems to mention. Ross seems to leave Riverside shortly after the Confession Letter. After Ross moves to Santa Cruz in 1967, Riverside Zodiac letters stop forever. If this was a copycat, letters still stop. Kind of the other end of the gaps in the bay area letters.

2) Ross moved from Riverside to Santa Cruz. If he was Z, he would need to have some connection to Vallejo/Napa that started in 1968. It would make a lot of sense that it was his arrest around 2/68, that sent him to Napa State Hospital (for a short say, or on and off treatment). Agnews is a bit more serious. He was probably sent there in Dec 1970, since that seems to be when his mental health really starts to deteriorate and matches up well with the gap in letters from 1971-1974.



in answer to your number 2) maybe this is the place he visited Paul_Averly...deer park hospital/ sanitarium/health farm St Helena. perfect location... specialized in diets and heart alcohol and smoking ..a health farm amongst other things from memory.. spas in early days. was discussed in other topics.


edit
http://saint-helena.cylex-usa.com/compa ... 80292.html

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:29 pm
by morf13
Mr lowe wrote:
Paul_Averly wrote:1) Worth noting something else that no one seems to mention. Ross seems to leave Riverside shortly after the Confession Letter. After Ross moves to Santa Cruz in 1967, Riverside Zodiac letters stop forever. If this was a copycat, letters still stop. Kind of the other end of the gaps in the bay area letters.

2) Ross moved from Riverside to Santa Cruz. If he was Z, he would need to have some connection to Vallejo/Napa that started in 1968. It would make a lot of sense that it was his arrest around 2/68, that sent him to Napa State Hospital (for a short say, or on and off treatment). Agnews is a bit more serious. He was probably sent there in Dec 1970, since that seems to be when his mental health really starts to deteriorate and matches up well with the gap in letters from 1971-1974.



in answer to your number 2) maybe this is the place he visited Paul_Averly...deer park hospital/ sanitarium/health farm St Helena. perfect location... specialized in diets and heart alcohol and smoking ..a health farm amongst other things from memory.. spas in early days. was discussed in other topics.


I don't think it's out of the question that Ross spent time in Napa state mental hospital as there were some skilled experts there that dealt with schizophrenia as the article here shows

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:34 pm
by doranchak
Morf, can you remind me what the source was for the idea of Ross having schizophrenia?

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:46 pm
by Mr lowe
just liked the DEER PARK st Helena hospital side of it "escapee for a day" would you be missed.

Re: Ross Sullivan: Timeline of primary sources

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:48 pm
by morf13
doranchak wrote:Morf, can you remind me what the source was for the idea of Ross having schizophrenia?


How did we find that out?? I can't even remember now. Anybody know off hand? If not,I will go back and look