Ross Sullivan in Santa Cruz

[1doctor]

Here's the most logical conclusion one can currently hold with the current information: Ross lived in Santa Cruz after he left Riverside until his death. We have no information stating otherwise. And while its true that there is no information stating that he stayed in Santa Cruz, it is still the most logical and sensible conclusion to hold, vs the idea that he didn't stay in Santa Cruz with no evidence showing that.

[morf13]

Here's the most logical conclusion one can currently hold with the current information: Ross lived in Santa Cruz after he left Riverside until his death. We have no information stating otherwise. And while its true that there is no information stating that he stayed in Santa Cruz, it is still the most logical and sensible conclusion to hold, vs the idea that he didn't stay in Santa Cruz with no evidence showing that.

it's not the most logical. When he died in 1977, his death certificate said he was a county resident of Santa Cruz county for 3 years (back to 1974). Before that he was a Santa Cruz resident in the 1968 Book. From 1968 to 1974, where was he???? His death cert didn't say 10 years as a Santa Cruz resident.

Again, coincidentally or not, that 68-74 timeframe, for better or worse, is the time Zodiac was active. All we want to do is rule him out.

[1doctor]

From 1968 to 1974, where was he???? His death cert didn't say 10 years as a Santa Cruz resident

Occams razor suggests he was still in Santa Cruz. We have no reason to believe he wasn't.

[bitterbeatpoet]

Gerald Katz's story????? said he lived in Santa Cruz and San Francisco.
so i guess it comes down to just believe what you choose to believe!

[Norse]

Could be a formality of some kind. That he lived there, de facto, but didn't count as a resident for some reason. Possibly something to do with his status as such, the fact that he was institutionalized in one way or the other (which seems likely), etc.

Then again, perhaps he had a sojourn in an institution somewhere else at some point, spent enough time out of the county not to qualify as a resident, was then re-registered (so to speak) when he came back.

[morf13]

Gerald Katz's story????? said he lived in Santa Cruz and San Francisco.
so i guess it comes down to just believe what you choose to believe!

Unfortunately, Katz has no more details about the SF timeframe. Katz has been spot on with everything else,so I will give him benefit of the doubt

[JeffP]

Katz confirmed to me just yesterday that he lived all over San Francisco area.

He was in Santa Cruz in very EARLY 1968 (Feb 5), and likely again in very late 1970 (December 17). I'm willing to bet, without causing a fight about it, that he was in some mental institution between 1971 and 1974. Then back to Santa Cruz where he lived out rest of his days at that group home.

It's in between Feb 5 1968 to December 17 1970, a pretty important 2 years and 10 month period, where his whereabouts are unknown.

Assuming he was always in Santa Cruz is as absurd as assuming he stayed in every YMCA in the Bay Area. Especially since we have TWO pieces of information that suggest he wasn't in Santa Cruz the whole time (the death certificate and Gerald Katz' information who has been spot on about everything and was relaying what Ross' brother had told him).

PS Katz had no more additional details about where in San Francisco he was, etc. He only said that Timothy told him 1) that he lived all over San Francisco area; 2) he believed he committed the Zodiac murders/letter writing during periods he was out of the hospital. I assume this meant that Ross had basically been in and out of hospitals since 1968.

[morf13]

From 1968 to 1974, where was he???? His death cert didn't say 10 years as a Santa Cruz resident

Occams razor suggests he was still in Santa Cruz. We have no reason to believe he wasn't.

Sorry, gotta disagree. The official county document,detailing his years in Santa Cruz lists him as a resident there since 1974,I will go with the official document until I see something that says something else

[morf13]

Jeffp, check your PM

[Tahoe27]

From 1968 to 1974, where was he???? His death cert didn't say 10 years as a Santa Cruz resident

Occams razor suggests he was still in Santa Cruz. We have no reason to believe he wasn't.

Sorry, gotta disagree. The official county document,detailing his years in Santa Cruz lists him as a resident there since 1974,I will go with the official document until I see something that says something else

I wonder how they determine when someone arrived in a county?