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Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:55 pm
by Mr lowe
Paul_Averly wrote:
*Ross's job involved marking up books with WHITE INK. We have a watch found with white paint at the CJB scene, later Z uses white ink on the Halloween card.


I think it would be interesting to find an old book from the library with the white paint(ink) on it and spectro analyze it and the haLowe en card

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:56 pm
by Seagull
Paul_Averly wrote:
The letter also mentions:

*Ross wrote a poem for a school publication. Maybe our Riverside member can dig that up from the RCC archives.

*The youngest brother's (Jon's) step father was the pastor at CJB's church. Even more of a connection their.

*Ross was seen on campus the night CJB was killed.

*Ross's job involved marking up books with WHITE INK. We have a watch found with white paint at the CJB scene, later Z uses white ink on the Halloween card.


We really need to be more careful about how things are presented. This is how rumors get started and the misinformation spirals out of control.

I have highlighted in red the statement I have a problem with. First of all, the mother of Ross, Jon and Tim had died, we established that in the beginning of the long Ross Sullivan thread. As such she would not have been remarried for the boys to have a step-father. In fact Ross's parents were married until the day the mother died. There was no step-father.

What the librarian said was that Ross's younger brother's foster father was a pastor. There is a huge difference between a step-father and foster father.

Secondly, Cheri was Catholic, the Catholic church has priests not pastors. I have never known a Catholic priest to individually take in foster children. The Catholic church as a whole does take in children in a school type setting however.

Reverend Harold Sullivan, the boys' father was with the Episcopalian church. Sometimes the reverends in that religion are called pastors. It is far more likely that one or both of Ross's younger brothers were taken in by one of Harold Sullivan's fellow Episcopalian reverend's. We do not know if it was Jon, specifically, that was in foster care as Ross had two younger brothers.

This is the paragraph from the librarian's letter that addresses this foster father situation.

Ross librarian letter foster father.PNG

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:49 pm
by Paul_Averly
The interesting thing is how the librarian was so creeped out by Ross, she kept tabs on him even after he left Riverside. She seems dead on with much of the info, even as we dig, we find the same info.

She kept tabs on him until he was in Santa Cruz then thrown in a nut house. That must have been around his arrest in 1968. Then, shortly after, the Zodiac crimes start up.

Only issue is figuring out where Ross was in that time frame. No one seems to know, and that's probably how he got away with it all.

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:06 pm
by Nick, no Nora
Hi,
A couple of thoughts. Do they have syllabi/course catalogs?
Who if anybody, would have been teaching James Joyce there?
I say that because Ulysses and especially Finnegan's Wake are not casual reading. I suspect most are introduced to those books in college classes.
I would be interested to know if any Joyce books were being taught there during that time.

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:59 am
by murray
Nick, no Nora wrote:Hi,
A couple of thoughts. Do they have syllabi/course catalogs?
Who if anybody, would have been teaching James Joyce there?
I say that because Ulysses and especially Finnegan's Wake are not casual reading. I suspect most are introduced to those books in college classes.
I would be interested to know if any Joyce books were being taught there during that time.


I am curious, NNN, what the connection to James Joyce might be? I think it has been difficult to dig up curriculum details so many years later, but there must be a way to confirm this. Are you noticing a connection to literature that was referenced, or is it related to a style of writing demonstrated in a letter? The poem?

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:50 am
by morf13
Look in the Fred Manalli section or use the search feature for lots of James Joyce stuff we've posted about

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:05 am
by snooter
Be interesting to know if they did an IQ test on ross at the mental institution.....but that record in all probability will never be made public..

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:11 am
by morf13
snooter wrote:Be interesting to know if they did an IQ test on ross at the mental institution.....but that record in all probability will never be made public..


Interesting question. Ross seems like he had a varied background with knowledge of a lot of stuff. It may not make him smart, but definitely shows how much stuff he knew about-

*Religion (thru his Father)

*YMCA activity

*Camping

*Acting

*Member of the orator's club

*High school & college student

*Was an artist

*Into poetry

*Knew how to skin animals

*Knew how to ride a motorcycle

*Read the New Yorker magazine

*Worked in the RCC Library

* Wrote a paper about how to use various writing styles
who knows what else he was into, or what skills he had.

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:30 pm
by Jarlve
morf13,

In another thread you posted that there's a witness who mentioned "his term paper was about handwriting and the different styles". I guess that should go on your list. It's compelling to say the least.

Re: ROSS & THE RCC LIBRARY

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:53 pm
by morf13
Jarlve wrote:morf13,

In another thread you posted that there's a witness who mentioned "his term paper was about handwriting and the different styles". I guess that should go on your list. It's compelling to say the least.


Thanks I just added that. Yes it is very interesting