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Theforeigner wrote:A VERY important question IMHO is:

If Ross Sullivan couln't drive, how could he possibly be the Zodiac Killer???


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Sullivan’s high school friend Allan Silliphant told me, Sullivan’s intellect matched that commonly associated with the Zodiac: while Silliphant read comic books as a child, Sullivan scanned the New Yorker.
But Silliphant, like others, is not at all convinced that his old pal is the Zodiac, even if Morford is sure. Sullivan couldn’t drive, and so he has a hard time believing Sullivan could have traveled across the Bay Area or escaped the scenes as easily as the Zodiac did. He was also far too fat, Silliphant said, to pull off these killings in the light of the day and not be caught.

I am going to move this to the Pros/Cons section of Ross being Zodiac.

In the meantime, I will say as I have said a bunch here, Silliphant told me that Ross was 300 lbs in high school. We see pics of Ross in his Senior year, does he look 300 lbs???NO he does not, so a witness may see him and report him as being in the 200's. Silliphant told me on the phone Ross was 300lbs, but he wasn't a rolly-polly fat, but rather solid and he even used the word 'AGILE'. Then he turns around in the interview for Ratter and states that he thought Ross may be too fat. Zodiac wasn't running marathons or taking part in decathalons etc. He was pulling up to people and getting out and shooting them. Zodiac didn't have to be in top shape, and my Hartnell's account, he wasn't. Hartnell himself said he had a belly hanging over his belt.

As far as not driving, Silliphant lost touch with him after 1962 or so. That's 4 years before Bates was killed, and 7 years before Zodiac was attacking, so Ross could have been driving by then. Joann Bailey stated in 1966,Ross was driving a motorcycle. Also, somebody here said that they seemed to recall Gerald Katz mentioning Ross drove a VW like Cheri's. I personally don't remember reading that, but if somebody recalls that being mentioned, please point me in the right direction

smokie treats wrote:

Theforeigner wrote:A VERY important question IMHO is:

If Ross Sullivan couln't drive, how could he possibly be the Zodiac Killer???


http://ratter.com/this-mans-brother-is- ... 1702397797

Sullivan’s high school friend Allan Silliphant told me, Sullivan’s intellect matched that commonly associated with the Zodiac: while Silliphant read comic books as a child, Sullivan scanned the New Yorker.
But Silliphant, like others, is not at all convinced that his old pal is the Zodiac, even if Morford is sure. Sullivan couldn’t drive, and so he has a hard time believing Sullivan could have traveled across the Bay Area or escaped the scenes as easily as the Zodiac did. He was also far too fat, Silliphant said, to pull off these killings in the light of the day and not be caught.

Whether Ross drove a car is obviously a key fact, and needs to be verified by a second source of information before anyone can even think about making a decision about whether Ross was the Zodiac. Silliphant was Ross's childhood friend, and probably didn't know about where Ross was or doing in 1968-69. It all boils down to the evidence, of which there is not enough. However, there is enough information about Ross to keep him as a POI and justify making further investigations.

Allan definitely lost touch with Ross after 1962 or so,so yes, he didn't know what Ross was up to in 1966 or 1969.

Ok-find the DL record for Ross..but even not locating a DL for Ross does not mean he could not drive..many boys (ok its 2015 so some chicks too) could drive cars well before 16 years of age..Ross with a VW is interesting (X connection) but we are again lacking proof he had/drove/owned a VW let alone a motor vehicle...Ross does fit my Z profile in that he was artsy..i still think Z was an artsy nut with anti war ties thru Berkley..still think Z's high skol years were in Riverside and he went north to berkley and dropped out after a year or 2..course like anything Z the fog is thick and anything u think you know should be considered wrong

Ross COULDN'T drive or DIDN'T drive? Did he just not own a vehicle or was unable to get a license because of a medical condition? I used to steal my mom's car when I was 14 and would drive with no license, so how do we know that Ross didn't drive? It's not that difficult to borrow a vehicle from someone. How do we know that the man from the sketch at Lake Berryessa wasn't a friend of Zodiac that drove him there? How do we know Zodiac drove after the murder of Paul Stine? For all we know, he hid out at KQ's house after the killing.

We can't rule Ross out just because he MAYBE did not drive.

snooter wrote:Ok-find the DL record for Ross..but even not locating a DL for Ross does not mean he could not drive..many boys (ok its 2015 so some chicks too) could drive cars well before 16 years of age..Ross with a VW is interesting (X connection) but we are again lacking proof he had/drove/owned a VW let alone a motor vehicle...Ross does fit my Z profile in that he was artsy..i still think Z was an artsy nut with anti war ties thru Berkley..still think Z's high skol years were in Riverside and he went north to berkley and dropped out after a year or 2..course like anything Z the fog is thick and anything u think you know should be considered wrong

Interesting. I have always thought a Riverside H.S., Berkeley and being Anti-War were real possibilities as well, but I haven't looked to close at those things because I have not seen a good POI that is a match to those things.

ophion1031 wrote:
We can't rule Ross out just because he MAYBE did not drive.

I agree with that.

If this guy, Silliphant, lost touch with him in '62, what he says is actually neither here nor there.

It would be good to know for sure whether he had a license or not, though. It's certainly possible to drive around plenty without a license (I should know), but for me it's a bit hard to imagine Z without a license.

Anyway, Ross WAS looked into (to what extent is unclear to me) after Bates – correct? That's what the librarian says – or did I misunderstand that?

If so, is there any point in contacting RPD regarding this, specifically? I know they're not the most forthcoming PD when it comes to anything regarding Bates – but this would be a very specific matter, a simple question: Why was he checked out? Did he have an alibi – and what was it?

I used to have a contact within RPD that was somewhat open to communication, but he is no longer there. I tried to contact them again after he left and never got a response.

A horrible thought to think your own brother could be a violent criminal. It's reasonable to believe one wouldn't take that stance lightly. IF Ross couldn't or didn't drive you'd think his brother would take that into consideration.

I think it's important to point out regarding Ross, we didn't see a photo of him and decide he looked like Zodiac, so we should check him out, but rather, the Library staff pointed him out, and his photo was found years later, it wasn't until his photo was found in the Glendale HS yearbook last year that we discovered his likeness to the Z sketch.