duckking2001 wrote:Pro: Ross worked at the RCC Library. Zodiac didn't write anymore after Ross died.
Grey area: He allegedly wrote poems, looked sorta like Z, lived sorta in the Z area.
Cons: Everything else. Ross has no connection to anything having to do with the word Zodiac. Never shown to own or have access to any of Z's cars, nor guns, nor wing walker shoes, codes, military/navy, knot tying, Mikado, Belli, bombs, Paul Avery, etc.
Really Ross would never be a suspect if it wasn't for one woman who said he was creepy. Sound familiar? The more I think about it the more I see Ross as being just like Arthur Leigh Allen, a loser in the wrong place that was easy to peg as a murderer and fudge all the other details to make them seem like they could fit.
Morf, you're saying that his writing is a possible match is really leading and can come off as intentionally fabricating. Not being able to make a proper writing analysis is nowhere near the same thing as a possible match, other than that leaves everyone who has not been positively eliminated in the same camp, so pretty much every one ever.
Paul Avery, your bias is showing so much. "He signed RH because his first name is R and his dad's name is H." Even though his middle name is M and his last name is S. Sure, he did something that made no sense, other than it connects him to the Zodiac if you put it that way. "Pro: He might have worn a watch" Seriously? He might have worn a Zodiac watch too then, right?
Allen had as much of a connection to Darlene Ferrin as Ross had to Cheri. Which is to say that he might have met her. They certainly weren't best buddies. Allen's timeline fits just as well as Ross does, and Allen admitting that he was in Riverside actually gives him even more of a connection to Z victims than Ross does.
I'll give you that Ross was someone who definitely should have been checked out, but you guys are taking every single thing about him and trying to see how you can tie it to Zodiac, when those things can only be viewed as suspicious because you already think that he is a good suspect, and not the other way around. I don't give a crap about Ross being smart and wearing flannel, that would never say "zodiac connection" unless you were trying to frame it that way.
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Grey area: He allegedly wrote poems, looked sorta like Z, lived sorta in the Z area.
No, he looked nearly identical to that sketch, right down to the widow's peak hairline discussed by Fouke. Show me another Z suspect ever discussed that's a closer match, you can't. You are right, he was Sort of in the Z area, but I want to see if he was in Vallejo, Napa , or SFCons: Everything else. Ross has no connection to anything having to do with the word Zodiac. Never shown to own or have access to any of Z's cars, nor guns, nor wing walker shoes, codes, military/navy, knot tying, Mikado, Belli, bombs, Paul Avery, etc.
Won't argue any of this, because we just don't know enough about him, and hope to know more soon. He did have a love of movies and poetry, something Z referred to and used. And we still don't knpw how or why Z chose the name Zodiac, my guess is he took it from a watch, or stole it from Zode.
Really Ross would never be a suspect if it wasn't for one woman who said he was creepy. Sound familiar? The more I think about it the more I see Ross as being just like Arthur Leigh Allen, a loser in the wrong place that was easy to peg as a murderer and fudge all the other details to make them seem like they could fit.
You're right, but she did bring him up in the Bates case which connects to Zodiac along with letters & desktop.And it wasn't "one woman" it was the whole library staff. And you compare Allen to Ross, Allen can't be proven to have been in the rCC Libray like Ross, and he wasnt a dead ringer for the sketch like Ross.Morf, you're saying that his writing is a possible match is really leading and can come off as intentionally fabricating. Not being able to make a proper writing analysis is nowhere near the same thing as a possible match, other than that leaves everyone who has not been positively eliminated in the same camp, so pretty much every one ever.
Please don't speak for me regarding the writing, there are similarities in some of Ross's writing, and we need more samples.Paul Avery, your bias is showing so much. "He signed RH because his first name is R and his dad's name is H." Even though his middle name is M and his last name is S. Sure, he did something that made no sense, other than it connects him to the Zodiac if you put it that way. "Pro: He might have worn a watch" Seriously? He might have worn a Zodiac watch too then, right?
I can't speak for Paul, I am not reaching for what the initials meant, I have always thought, or hoped they were simply the initials of the Author, but we see how far that has gotten us.Allen had as much of a connection to Darlene Ferrin as Ross had to Cheri. Which is to say that he might have met her. They certainly weren't best buddies. Allen's timeline fits just as well as Ross does, and Allen admitting that he was in Riverside actually gives him even more of a connection to Z victims than Ross does.
That's not true at all. You need to review all of these Ross pages. Ross's Brother Tim, married Cheri's good Friend Bonnie. Ross and Cheri knew each other, they could be placed in the RCC Library. Can anybody prove Leigh Allen knew Darlene? And so what if Allen went to Riverside, I have been to Ford's Theater in Washington DC, but that doesn't mean I shot President Lincoln. If Allen was in Riverside at any time other then when the letters were mailed, or Bates was killed, it's pointless.I'll give you that Ross was someone who definitely should have been checked out, but you guys are taking every single thing about him and trying to see how you can tie it to Zodiac, when those things can only be viewed as suspicious because you already think that he is a good suspect, and not the other way around. I don't give a crap about Ross being smart and wearing flannel, that would never say "zodiac connection" unless you were trying to frame it that way
Again, you are speaking for me, please don't. Here's what I feel about Ross,and all I know to be true-
1)He looked identical to the Z sketch,including widow's peak hairline
2)He can be placed in RCC Library, where the desktop poem was linked to Z
3)Not lone before the murder, he had written a disturbing poem that spooked the Library staff
4)After the last Bates case letters were received, Ross went to the Bay area in time for the Z murders.
5) Ross had interest in acting, movies,poetry, which we have seen referenced in Z letters
6) Some similarity in writing to Z
Beyond all this, it's speculation and we are trying to gather more evidence and writing, proof of residence during Z crimes, etc
Show me one other Suspect that you can place in the RCC Library that loks very close to the Z sketch......jeopardy music playing...time's up, you can't!