Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby traveller1st » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:03 pm

"... and an echo arose from the suicides grave"
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby Tahoe27 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:17 pm

Unfortunately, suicide wasn't exclusive to the Zodiac case.
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"...they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs--other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac's doorstep." L.A. Times, 1969
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby morf13 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:33 pm

Started a discussion about what the poem was about. It's here- viewtopic.php?f=80&t=2297
Sorry, this thread was starting to go a bit sideways
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby Paul_Averly » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:55 pm

*Pro - Ross's voice was the same monotone voice as Z.

*Pro - Was one of the over 2000 SFPD suspects.

*Con - Was one of the over 2000 SFPD suspects.
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby Patinky » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:50 pm

Con: a 7-7.5 inch Timex watch with blood on it was found, believed to be a part of Cheri Jo's crime scene. It's not likely Ross's wrist was that small.
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby Paul_Averly » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:56 pm

PRO: Actually, his wrist would be that exact size:

Height and average wrist size

5'8" Tall
7 inches
5'10" Tall
7.1 inches
6' Tall
7.27 inches
6'2" Tall
7.45 inches
6'4" Tall
7.62 inches
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby Patinky » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:15 pm

Paul_Averly wrote:PRO: Actually, his wrist would be that exact size:

Height and average wrist size

5'8" Tall
7 inches
5'10" Tall
7.1 inches
6' Tall
7.27 inches
6'2" Tall
7.45 inches
6'4" Tall
7.62 inches


A 7-7.5 inch watch band will fit a 6-inch wrist but not anything much over that. In addition, I assume the measurements you gave are for average weight individuals with medium bone structure. By all accounts I've read here today, Ross Sullivan was well above average in size and build (bone structure).
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby smokie treats » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:23 pm

Pros:

* Bailey stated in her letter that Ross had grammar and spelling issues; her assertion is apparently true, since Ross misspelled "Seracuse" on his Social Security application. Zodiac also had similar spelling issues.

* Ross was into poetry; Zodiac also liked using poetry.

It would be nice to see more of Ross's writing/ poetry, not just for the handwriting, but for the spelling.

Cons:

* Still no confirmation of Ross having a connection to Vallejo, or driving a car.

It would also be nice if Jon Sullivan would be willing to help find out one way or the other if Ross lived or worked anywhere else besides Santa Cruz. With that information, this conversation would probably either be over with, or just starting.

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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby Paul_Averly » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:31 pm

Pro: Ross drove a VW Bug. (probably knew the engine hood has no lock)

Pro: Ross had 2 wrists, and it is possible he could have put a watch on one of them.

Pro: Ross shares the odd spacing pattern of Z, seen near the end of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOGk7IpQlo
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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Postby morf13 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:37 pm

Paul_Averly wrote:Pro: Ross drove a VW Bug. (probably knew the engine hood has no lock)

Pro: Ross had 2 wrists, and it is possible he could have put a watch on one of them.

Pro: Ross shares the odd spacing pattern of Z, seen near the end of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOGk7IpQlo


I forget,how do we know for sure Ross drove a VW
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