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Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:51 am
by morf13
duckking2001 wrote:I'm not sure why you qouted me there Morf. If you are saying that people who are using this thread to vent frustrations because they are sick of hearing about Ross or something are just wasting their own time and not being productive, then I agree with that.
My point was that, boiled down to it, saying "Ross has been proven to be the Zodiac" compared to saying "Ross has not been proven to be the Zodiac", are not equatable opposing statements.
In other words I think pointing out where evidence is lacking is a valid con, and doesn't mean that someone is ignoring pros or dismissing Ross as a suspect.
I quoted you because I agree with much of what you said
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:01 am
by glurk
I'm fairly certain that what I said was that - often in this thread - there are folks saying "Yes, Ross was absolutely Zodiac!' And of course, those saying "absolutely NOT!" I don't even have a personal opinion on it, except that both cannot be correct.
-glurk
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:12 am
by morf13
glurk wrote:I'm fairly certain that what I said was that - often in this thread - there are folks saying "Yes, Ross was absolutely Zodiac!' And of course, those saying "absolutely NOT!" I don't even have a personal opinion on it, except that both cannot be correct.
-glurk
Hence, the reason for researching him and trying to find out the truth
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:18 am
by glurk
Did I not say before - quoting myself:
And there are people here doing that. Using the Greek alphabet again, the MUs and the NUs are the posters here that are NOT arguing, namecalling, or fighting. They are the ones actually working and trying to dig up whatever real evidence there is.
Those who are in that "middle-space," undecided yet open-minded. Those are the people who really move things along.
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:18 am
by morf13
It was suggested to me that this forum has become "Ross-oriented" or "Ross themed". This is a site about the Zodiac killer, the case, the clues, the suspects. I can not control what people are interested in or want to discuss. People are interested in Ross right now, and that includes people that don't even think he was z. They are posting about him. Nobody is forcing Ross down people's throats, if one doesn't want to read about Ross, they are lucky, as we have hundreds or thousands of other posts, threads, suspects, etc Feel free to explore other areas of the site
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:18 am
by morf13
I am going to ask all of the 'ROSS AS ZODIAC SUPPORTERS' to ease up on the anger towards the 'ROSS COULDN'T BE Z SUPPORTERS'.
I am also going to ask People that are critical of Ross as Zodiac to respect the interest in Ross by those that are interested in him as a Suspect.
I also think, at this point, we know what the Pros & cons are of Ross as a Zodiac Suspect are, so, unless we get more info on him, we should slow up on posts here as not to overload te thread and keep repeating info.
As always, everybody is welcome to discuss via PM Ross as a Suspect.
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:09 am
by masootz
maybe the few people who keep making absolute statements like "he is zodiac", "he isn't zodiac" could lighten up a bit and let the rest of us have a discussion.
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:25 am
by morf13
masootz wrote:maybe the few people who keep making absolute statements like "he is zodiac", "he isn't zodiac" could lighten up a bit and let the rest of us have a discussion.
Sure that helps too
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:53 pm
by joedetective
I didn't mean to get all dramatic there yesterday. I just found it very frustrating that posters, including Morf, were totally missing my point which was valid. I'm not anti-Sullivan, I just have trouble believing Z's crimes were the work of a schitzophrenic. I wasn't trying to come across as antagonistic and apologize if I did. I was simply challenging Morf for giving credence to a criminal profiller from 1969. It was a pros and cons thread afterall.
Maybe it wasn't the most brilliant post, but pointing out that most of us here in 2015 who are interested in this stuff know more about serial killers than experts did at that time, maybe it's not a fact but I hardly think it's the stupidest comment of all time.
For the record I have nothing against Mormons or scientologists. I just think their beliefs are a little out there.
I won't be sniffing around the RS threads anymore. Lesson learned.
Re: Ross Sullivan Pros Vs. Cons of him being Zodiac

Posted:
Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:00 pm
by morf13
Well the thread got a bit out of hand,and I am trying to cool it off. Everybody take a breath. People that claim that Ross was definitely Zodiac, are quite simply put, WRONG to say that, as are people that claim he couldn't be Zodiac. We don't have enough to rule him in or out.
I don't have any issues with you feeling the way you do about mental health experts from the 60s or 70s being wrong about stuff, but maybe you can post some material that proves in which ways these experts were wrong etc,to help aide in that claim.