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Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:44 pm
by morf13
Talked with Ross's Friend, Allan again today. Nothing major discovered, but he did go into detail about Ross and his poetry, he described Ross's Voice again, being monotone,etc.
He googled some stuff about Ross & Zodiac, and found us here, and the thread about Ross. He read the letter from Joann Bailey. He will be attempting to contact other people that knew Ross from High school in an attempt to get writing. He's still looking for his movie film starring Ross

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:10 pm
by Theforeigner
morf13 wrote:Talked with Ross's Friend, Allan again today. Nothing major discovered, but he did go into detail about Ross and his poetry, he described Ross's Voice again, being monotone,etc.
He googled some stuff about Ross & Zodiac, and found us here, and the thread about Ross. He read the letter from Joann Bailey. He will be attempting to contact other people that knew Ross from High school in an attempt to get writing. He's still looking for his movie film starring Ross


Should hopefully be possible to find some Ross handwriting in his classmates yearbooks, maybe he even wrote some poems ?

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:08 pm
by JeffP
morf13 wrote:Talked with Ross's Friend, Allan again today. Nothing major discovered, but he did go into detail about Ross and his poetry, he described Ross's Voice again, being monotone,etc.
He googled some stuff about Ross & Zodiac, and found us here, and the thread about Ross. He read the letter from Joann Bailey. He will be attempting to contact other people that knew Ross from High school in an attempt to get writing. He's still looking for his movie film starring Ross


What did he say about the poetry?

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:22 pm
by morf13
He read (from memory)a short poem Ross had written. He asked me not to share it at this time and I agreed. It was nothing like the desktop poem.

He also said Ross loathed himself, reiterated Ross hated his Dad, and also talked about Ross's ability to befriend women, although he could never have relationships with women. This reminded me of what Ms Bailey the librarian had stated.

He said Ross did not Drive at all, at least not back in 1959-62.
He remembered Ross's Brother Tim well, but didn't know his Brother Jon.

We may have made a valuable ally as far as the Z case goes, since this has interested Allan so much, he is interested indoing some sort of Documentary about z and/or Ross.

He also said he's still in contact with people from the Drama dept of their school, which Ross was active in

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:31 pm
by JeffP
morf13 wrote:He read (from memory)a short poem Ross had written. He asked me not to share it at this time and I agreed. It was nothing like the desktop poem.

He also said Ross loathed himself, reiterated Ross hated his Dad, and also talked about Ross's ability to befriend women, although he could never have relationships with women. This reminded me of what Ms Bailey the librarian had stated.

He said Ross did not Drive at all, at least not back in 1959-62.
He remembered Ross's Brother Tim well, but didn't know his Brother Jon.

We may have made a valuable ally as far as the Z case goes, since this has interested Allan so much, he is interested indoing some sort of Documentary about z and/or Ross.

He also said he's still in contact with people from the Drama dept of their school, which Ross was active in


We may have hit the motherload here. I wonder if Ross had ever been drafted though? Being drafted between 1960-1963 was not that uncommon. As you wrote, Allan himself had been drafted in 1963.

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:18 pm
by Paul_Averly
morf13 wrote:He read (from memory)a short poem Ross had written. He asked me not to share it at this time and I agreed. It was nothing like the desktop poem.

He also said Ross loathed himself, reiterated Ross hated his Dad, and also talked about Ross's ability to befriend women, although he could never have relationships with women. This reminded me of what Ms Bailey the librarian had stated.

He said Ross did not Drive at all, at least not back in 1959-62.
He remembered Ross's Brother Tim well, but didn't know his Brother Jon.

We may have made a valuable ally as far as the Z case goes, since this has interested Allan so much, he is interested indoing some sort of Documentary about z and/or Ross.

He also said he's still in contact with people from the Drama dept of their school, which Ross was active in



This is great news that you are in touch with Allen! I don't know how up to date he is on the case, here are a few things I would recommend.

The 2007 Movie (even though it is skewed towards ALA)

The Letters:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zodiac_Killer_letters

Mike Butterfield wrote an excellent case summary:
http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/case.htm

Also a great Riverside analysis (you doubters should also read this)
http://zodiackillerfacts.com/main/river ... mysteries/

And the yellow book. (but not Unmasked)

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:13 am
by Tahoe27
morf13 wrote:He read (from memory)a short poem Ross had written. He asked me not to share it at this time and I agreed. It was nothing like the desktop poem.


Dang! He remembered a poem Ross wrote some 50 odd years ago? Must have made one heck of an impact!

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:38 am
by morf13
Tahoe27 wrote:
morf13 wrote:He read (from memory)a short poem Ross had written. He asked me not to share it at this time and I agreed. It was nothing like the desktop poem.


Dang! He remembered a poem Ross wrote some 50 odd years ago? Must have made one heck of an impact!


It was a short poem, only a few lines.

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:39 am
by morf13
Paul_Averly wrote:
morf13 wrote:He read (from memory)a short poem Ross had written. He asked me not to share it at this time and I agreed. It was nothing like the desktop poem.

He also said Ross loathed himself, reiterated Ross hated his Dad, and also talked about Ross's ability to befriend women, although he could never have relationships with women. This reminded me of what Ms Bailey the librarian had stated.

He said Ross did not Drive at all, at least not back in 1959-62.
He remembered Ross's Brother Tim well, but didn't know his Brother Jon.

We may have made a valuable ally as far as the Z case goes, since this has interested Allan so much, he is interested indoing some sort of Documentary about z and/or Ross.

He also said he's still in contact with people from the Drama dept of their school, which Ross was active in



This is great news that you are in touch with Allen! I don't know how up to date he is on the case, here are a few things I would recommend.

The 2007 Movie (even though it is skewed towards ALA)

The Letters:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zodiac_Killer_letters

Mike Butterfield wrote an excellent case summary:
http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/case.htm

Also a great Riverside analysis (you doubters should also read this)
http://zodiackillerfacts.com/main/river ... mysteries/

And the yellow book. (but not Unmasked)


His computer is in the shop, so he is viewing & reading stuff from his phone, but he is having issues with that too

Re: Interview with Schoolmate of Ross

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:41 am
by morf13
JeffP wrote:
morf13 wrote:He read (from memory)a short poem Ross had written. He asked me not to share it at this time and I agreed. It was nothing like the desktop poem.

He also said Ross loathed himself, reiterated Ross hated his Dad, and also talked about Ross's ability to befriend women, although he could never have relationships with women. This reminded me of what Ms Bailey the librarian had stated.

He said Ross did not Drive at all, at least not back in 1959-62.
He remembered Ross's Brother Tim well, but didn't know his Brother Jon.

We may have made a valuable ally as far as the Z case goes, since this has interested Allan so much, he is interested indoing some sort of Documentary about z and/or Ross.

He also said he's still in contact with people from the Drama dept of their school, which Ross was active in


We may have hit the motherload here. I wonder if Ross had ever been drafted though? Being drafted between 1960-1963 was not that uncommon. As you wrote, Allan himself had been drafted in 1963.


I think I misspoke /miswrote, Allan left school early to join the military, meaning he did not actually graduate with his class as he was gone by graduation. Maybe he signed up before he got drafted, so he could choose where he went or what branch he was in? I am not quite sure.