MT. Clue for Ross?

[Paul_Averly]

Therefore, the police had no way to know Ross had a connection to Cheri. The coincidence to me is just TOO GREAT. I don't know if Ross was the Zodiac, there is some interesting circumstantial evidence but nothing conclusive, but I AM POSITIVE he killed Cheri.

And it wasn't like this connection to CJB was years prior, or even 6 months. It was mere days prior to the murder. A very new and fresh connection. The misdirection of the confession letter even hints at this. He tries to throw off the investigators by claiming they knew each other for years and were in high school together. Why would a killer give up this info if it was accurate? It had to be misdirection.

[morf13]

I could see this scenario....

Cheri is killed

The Library staff quickly turn Ross in as a Suspect, and they check him out and he really does have an airtight alibi.

Ross later writes the Bates letters

Later, Ross moves on to become Zodiac, and the 'Riverside connection' is exposed.

Zodiac investigators contact RPD and ask them if they have a good suspect, and RPD tells them about Bob Barnett(but not Ross or any other cleared Suspects).

Ross slips thru the cracks on both ends.

I'm not saying the above is exactly how it happened, but it may very well have happened that way.

Now, I would hope Z investigators went down to RCC to look for Suspects around the Library since the writing was linked inside the library. If they put 2 and 2 together, they would know what Zodiac looked like from the sketch,and would be looking for Guys that looked like the sketch that could have been in the library. Like I said, I hope this happened,but am not sure it did. Give me somebody else in that Library that looks exactly like the Stine sketch of Z, and they will get the same man hours that I have given to Ross.

[bitterbeatpoet]

I could see this scenario....

Cheri is killed

The Library staff quickly turn Ross in as a Suspect, and they check him out and he really does have an airtight alibi.

Ross later writes the Bates letters

Later, Ross moves on to become Zodiac, and the 'Riverside connection' is exposed.

Zodiac investigators contact RPD and ask them if they have a good suspect, and RPD tells them about Bob Barnett(but not Ross or any other cleared Suspects).

Ross slips thru the cracks on both ends.

I'm not saying the above is exactly how it happened, but it may very well have happened that way.

Now, I would hope Z investigators went down to RCC to look for Suspects around the Library since the writing was linked inside the library. If they put 2 and 2 together, they would know what Zodiac looked like from the sketch,and would be looking for Guys that looked like the sketch that could have been in the library. Like I said, I hope this happened,but am not sure it did. Give me somebody else in that Library that looks exactly like the Stine sketch of Z, and they will get the same man hours that I have given to Ross.

it all seems possible Morf, except Ross wrote the letters and then
"graduates" to become a serial killer? if Ross was Z, he killed CJB.
please spell out clearly your reasons for regularly posting your
suspicion he wasn't her killer. i for one, would be interested in
hearing them. thanks.

[Holmes201]

If that guy was a schizophrenic and he took LSD, which there is mention of with these people, that would really set him off. It isn't my opinion here, it is on record. I know about LSD very well. If he took that he would be put into a state of pure craziness. Maybe somebody who gave Ross the acid is afraid they could be charged as accessory before the fact. The last thing in the world you want to do is give LSD to a schizophrenic person.

[Holmes201]

The most perfect example of this situation is the case of Syd Barrett, the founder of a Pink Floyd. He had Schzophrenia and took LSD. He went bonkers man. He started putting a lb of butter on his head, and letting the butter melt under the stage lights, and drip down his body. Before he took those drugs he just had some drinks and ate at the steak bar.

[Holmes201]

Look at Ted Kasinsky, Whitey Bulger, The Manson family, they all took LSD and they sure turned into seriel and mass murders. Are you kidding, these people were very intelligent. They were involved with that MK ultra tests, at Harvard and Walpole State Prison, in Mass.
And another thing, they wrote letters too, and they painted things at the murder sites, ie; Tate-laBiana Murders. That's the crazy things they do on acid. The kids used to take it and then go to school all day. Then we played chess for a number of hours, so you can function fine on the stuff.

[Tahoe27]

...I don't know if Ross was the Zodiac, there is some interesting circumstantial evidence but nothing conclusive, but I AM POSITIVE he killed Cheri.

How are you positive he killed Cheri?

[morf13]

I could see this scenario....

Cheri is killed

The Library staff quickly turn Ross in as a Suspect, and they check him out and he really does have an airtight alibi.

Ross later writes the Bates letters

Later, Ross moves on to become Zodiac, and the 'Riverside connection' is exposed.

Zodiac investigators contact RPD and ask them if they have a good suspect, and RPD tells them about Bob Barnett(but not Ross or any other cleared Suspects).

Ross slips thru the cracks on both ends.

I'm not saying the above is exactly how it happened, but it may very well have happened that way.

Now, I would hope Z investigators went down to RCC to look for Suspects around the Library since the writing was linked inside the library. If they put 2 and 2 together, they would know what Zodiac looked like from the sketch,and would be looking for Guys that looked like the sketch that could have been in the library. Like I said, I hope this happened,but am not sure it did. Give me somebody else in that Library that looks exactly like the Stine sketch of Z, and they will get the same man hours that I have given to Ross.

it all seems possible Morf, except Ross wrote the letters and then
"graduates" to become a serial killer? if Ross was Z, he killed CJB.
please spell out clearly your reasons for regularly posting your
suspicion he wasn't her killer. i for one, would be interested in
hearing them. thanks.

I'm not against Ross or Z being Cheri's killer, it's possible, I am more focused as to whether Z/Ross wrote the letters & desktop in her case.

[bitterbeatpoet]

according to S. Morrill, Z wrote the Riverside stuff. that's good
enough for me. how will we ever get anything more definitive than that?
as far as Ross writing the CJB related things, if he wrote them,
looks like case solved to me. Paul Averly doesn't have Morrill's
clout, but he's done a good job of convincing me that Ross
likely wrote the Riverside stuff. where's law enforcement when
we need them?

[Paul_Averly]

according to S. Morrill, Z wrote the Riverside stuff. that's good
enough for me. how will we ever get anything more definitive than that?
as far as Ross writing the CJB related things, if he wrote them,
looks like case solved to me. Paul Averly doesn't have Morrill's
clout, but he's done a good job of convincing me that Ross
likely wrote the Riverside stuff. where's law enforcement when
we need them?

Thanks BBP. The Yellow Book was written almost 30 years ago and it pretty much spells out the Z Riverside stuff very clearly.

Michael Butterfield, also did some great work further investigating the Riverside connection.
http://zodiackillerfacts.com/main/river ... mysteries/

And on this very site, Trav basically shows us why Sherwood would say Z wrote the Riverside stuff.

As for Ross
Jeff P made a great breakthrough and connected Ross to CJB. When Toschi heard about Ross from Peterson, he never knew these important facts we now know.
-Ross knew CJB.
-Ross had a SF connection.
-Ross looked very much like the Stine sketch.

The Stine sketch fails to show that Z was a heavy person. It makes Z look like a skinny Gary S type. But we know from other evidence Z had the body type that Ross had. Stomach hanging out and all.

As for proof, Morf is right, we don't need proof Ross killed CJB, only that he was the one who wrote the letters. Since the writer in all likelihood later became Z.

I admit, IF Z wasn't the one who wrote the Riverside letters, Ross could not have been Z.
If that is the case then the evidence and the main stream understanding of the case is completely wrong. This would mean things like, copy cat writers, multiple killers, and starts to get into Thomas Horan type world...