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Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:31 am
by morf13
Just a theory of mine, but I think that the following Twitter account/post, may belong to a friend or Family member of Ross's Brother , Tim.

If you google, "Ross SUllivan" "Zodiac Killer", here's a hit-
"Zodiac Killer was a California psychopath named Ross Sullivan who died in 1977"

This was posted on 2/13/14, in response to DAN NOYES,and MKZODIAC(Ricardo). Noyes is the reporter that was supposed to run a story in which a man confessed to being zodiac.

The Twitter post came from,'NotreDameFan27', whose name is, PUIM. Puim even has a avatar that looks like Zodiac in general. If you google a bit further, you will see that 'NotreDameFan27' is connected to, a business in Alberta,Canada, called, PUIM PHOTOGRAPHY. Isnt this the area that Ross's Brother and Sister in law moved to? The person states that Ross was Zodiac, as if it is common knowledge.

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:02 am
by JeffP
I think we should look into how the mother died. I always found it suspicious too. Originally I thought it possible that Ross had killed her or somehow was involved. But the fact that the father gave up being a pastor and moved back to NY after she died is weird. The fact that Ross and his brothers didn't live with the father, even though at least two were still of minor age, is even weirder.

Could the father have had something to do with the death of the mother?

(Morf: see your messages)

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:10 am
by morf13
JeffP wrote:I think we should look into how the mother died. I always found it suspicious too. Originally I thought it possible that Ross had killed her or somehow was involved. But the fact that the father gave up being a pastor and moved back to NY after she died is weird. The fact that Ross and his brothers didn't live with the father, even though at least two were still of minor age, is even weirder.

Could the father have had something to do with the death of the mother?

(Morf: see your messages)


We can always get her Death certificate, and it will likely list cause of death

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:06 pm
by capricorn
I'm wondering why the letter from the librarian is not dated.

Also agree it seems most strange that Mr. Sullivan would leave his sons alone in California while they were still minors and move back to New York, especially since he was apparently a priest in the Episcopalian faith (which is very akin to Catholicism).

Would there be any way to investigate if there was a life insurance policy on Mrs. Sullivan?

Would there be any way to verify claims of mental illness re. Ross? The story he told about escaping from the local mental hospital sounds a little far-fetched imo and could have been used by him as an attention-getting device, especially if he felt rejected by his peers.

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:51 pm
by Theforeigner
morf13 wrote:Foreigner, I applaud your work as you well know, but I am a bit skeptcial that this is the right Family, as I found a HAROLD M. SULLIVAN & HARRIET SULLIVAN in Rochester,NY in the early 1940's...UNLESS, they somehow put the wrong middle initial in the phonebook. PLUS, from everything that was relayed, there were only two brothers of Ross,John & Tim,3 sons,not 4. Then again, I may be wrong. However, if you are right, and the Father was a Pastor, that could explain wh the Sons went to live with the Family of Cheri's Priest,maybe he arranged it for his Son to live there


Hi Morf

I have no doubt whatsoever that this is the right family of Ross Sullivan from Glendale/Glendale HS, who was
born 1941 and died in santa Cruz 1977, the RMS on the death certificate you posted on this forum.

If you read all the info I provided, in depth, you will understand that.
As you probably know I´m pretty experienced in this particular kind of research, and I do have a LOT more info
on this family resreach in my files to back it up however it would be WAY to much to post and TOO komplikated to
explain as well, but I would never
say that I am 100% sure if I´m not. I have checked and checked and dubble checked everything many times.

The only way it could be wrong is if the Ross Sullivan, described by the RCC librarian, is not the same Ross Sullivan
as on the death certificate you have posted on the forum.

The FOUR SONS issue, Well Ross and Timothy are safe but I´m not sure who the last two are yet.
The only thing I´m sure of is that one of them is named Jon Sullivan in Ross´s aunts obit.
But I´m working on it.
The two may be:

Jonathan G Sullivan, DOB: 25 Mar 1944, 69 years old, live in Berkeley
and
John Dennis Sullivan, DOB: 8 Dec 1939, 74 years old, have addresses all over northern California

BUT I´m NOT sure about thise two yet, but IF they are Ross´s brothers then we have:


John Dennis Sullivan DOB: 8 Dec 1939

Ross M Sullivan DOB: 28 Jul 1941

Jonathan G Sullivan, DOB: 25 Mar 1944

Timothy Sullivan DOB: ca 1946 (according to his marriage record w Bonnie L Bartlett, I have still not found his full DOB or his DOD)

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:05 pm
by Tahoe27
Yes TF.

Jon (Jonathan G.) Sullivan also attended Glendale High School in 1961 (photo provided previously) and is the same Jon I posted about living in Berkeley. There is info there about him having attended school in Southern Cal and elsewhere.

I think some confusion came with the death certificate showing "John", when his name is actually "Jon"

Hopefully Jon will reply shortly and we will have some answers.

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:31 pm
by Theforeigner
Tahoe27 wrote:Yes TF.

Jon (Jonathan G.) Sullivan also attended Glendale High School in 1961 (photo provided previously) and is the same Jon I posted about living in Berkeley. There is info there about him having attended school in Southern Cal and elsewhere.

I think some confusion came with the death certificate showing "John", when his name is actually "Jon"

Hopefully Jon will reply shortly and we will have some answers.


Right Tahoe :) but add to that, that the Jon (Jonathan G.) Sullivan I have provided is related to a John Dennis Sullivan 74 years old, whom I belive might be the 4th brother, the oldest that would be, and possibly the "John Sullivan" who found Ross dead. But as i posted I am NOT 100% sure about it, but it seem to fit pretty well.
And FYI this John Dennis Sullivan is NOT born in california, at least I have found no birthrecord that fit his DOB, so that point to that he probaly was born out of state like the rest of the brothers.

SULLIVAN, JONATHAN G
Available BERKELEY, CA

Possible Relatives:

SULLIVAN, JOHN DENNIS (Age 74)
SULLIVAN, AMANDA J (Age 40)
SULLIVAN, JOHN D (Age 74)
SULLIVAN, NANCY LYN (Age 67)

Nancy Lyn Sullivan is the wife of John Dennis Sullivan.

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:19 pm
by JeffP
Tahoe27 wrote:Yes TF.

Jon (Jonathan G.) Sullivan also attended Glendale High School in 1961 (photo provided previously) and is the same Jon I posted about living in Berkeley. There is info there about him having attended school in Southern Cal and elsewhere.

I think some confusion came with the death certificate showing "John", when his name is actually "Jon"

Hopefully Jon will reply shortly and we will have some answers.


If you look at the face of the Jonathan G. Sullivan from Berkeley you can tell it's the same as the Jonathon G. Sullivan in the 1961 Glendale pic. He's obviously older, but the face is the same.

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:22 pm
by Tahoe27
That would be weird. Two John's? Not out of the realm of possibility I suppose. I know "Jon" moved to Berkeley in 1976 and Ross was found by "John" in 1977. Let's hope we get some answers to some of these questions.

Re: Ross Sullivan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:28 pm
by JeffP
Tahoe27 wrote:That would be weird. Two John's? Not out of the realm of possibility I suppose. I know "Jon" moved to Berkeley in 1976 and Ross was found by "John" in 1977. Let's hope we get some answers to some of these questions.


It's possible that the John Dennis is a cousin as Harold had brothers according to the obit.