Ross Sullivan

[Zresearch]

ZResearch: If you're acquainted with a LE official interested in the Bates case, please send him/her my way. My POI is, IMO, at least as interesting as Sullivan. I can't blurt out his name, as I believe he's still alive. For openers, his initials are RH.

Unfortunately I do not personally know any law enforcement.

Most active law enforcement agents who are interested in or working on homicide investigations are already incredibly busy on active cases, and simply do not have the time or energy for work on a famous unsolved cold-case like zodiac.

If I encounter anybody in the law enforcement community who might be able to help, there is no doubt that I will send them in the direction of this investigation.

...even if you guys manage to a find a retired law enforcement officer who has connections this could be a huge help.

As for the RH on the desk, unlike many, I feel it likely was the authors initials, so if your suspect is an "RH", than that is a huge plus.

I have pondered the RH for awhile now. Red Head, Red Hood, Red Herring, Robin Hood(was Bates rich??). I truly believe, and its just my opinion, that RH stands for RH Bradshaw. -president of RCC at the time. It was a snarky jab. Obviously, Im not the first to make this connection but it seems to fit the most for me. No slam on your suspect btw, Zresearch; I like him as a suspect too.

I am not sure that the author of the writing on the desk ever suspected that it would taken out of storage and analyzed.

It seems to me like the author that wrote the poem might have been thinking that it would remain private or undiscovered, which could explain why the author did not attempt to alter his handwriting, and why the author May have signed the poem with his actual initials.

I think "richard Hoffman" is a possibility, ...though while attempting to connect Hoffman to riverside I might have found the wrong richard Hoffman, regardless, it's a work in progress.

"Dag" has an "RH" suspect which seems intriguing, it's going to be interesting to see if anything turns up there.

The RH initials are not something that I put too much effort into, it is more like an "add on" if your POI happens to have "RH" as their initials

[Nick, no Nora]

How many other POIs have a verifiable history of both code writing and writing poetry?

[Nick, no Nora]

Posted this in a different thread and section, upon realizing that the killer likely knew Cheri Jo Bates well enough to be able to pick out her car. Thought I should re-post.

How many guys likely knew Cheri Jo Bates, wrote poetry and had an interest in codes? Oh, and had reason to be in the RCC library?

[StitchMallone]

How many other POIs have a verifiable history of both code writing and writing poetry?

No doubt Edgar Allan Poe is our guy and if we can just place him with the Zodiac watch case solved!

[Nick, no Nora]

I'm saying that if the cops asked for alibis from 80 men in CJB's diary, then if you ask one question - how many wrote poetry? - mathematically you're going to get under 10 pretty quickly. And then codes is going to be even more rare.

So if CJB knew her killer, and if Zodiac was her killer, then Zodiac almost has to be Ross Sullivan. Because the odds of any other guy in the Bates diary being both a poet and experienced in codes is unlikely.

[TomVoigt]

I'm saying that if the cops asked for alibis from 80 men in CJB's diary, then if you ask one question - how many wrote poetry? - mathematically you're going to get under 10 pretty quickly. And then codes is going to be even more rare.

Poetry and cryptography were not obscure subjects back then.

[Zresearch]

I'm saying that if the cops asked for alibis from 80 men in CJB's diary, then if you ask one question - how many wrote poetry? - mathematically you're going to get under 10 pretty quickly. And then codes is going to be even more rare.

Poetry and cryptography were not obscure subjects back then.

I somewhat agree.

I am guessing that most people write poetry, so the "poetry writing" prerequisite might be too general.

The cryptography might be a better prerequisite in narrowing your search, but you also must consider that zodiac might have never formally trained in cryptography, thus finding a record of interest in codes might be easier said than done.

In the post where you said "had a reason to be in the RCC library" you must remember that there is no evidence that the killer was actually in the library with Cheri jo the night she was killed.

[Spiderhawk]

I'm saying that if the cops asked for alibis from 80 men in CJB's diary, then if you ask one question - how many wrote poetry? - mathematically you're going to get under 10 pretty quickly. And then codes is going to be even more rare.

So if CJB knew her killer, and if Zodiac was her killer, then Zodiac almost has to be Ross Sullivan. Because the odds of any other guy in the Bates diary being both a poet and experienced in codes is unlikely.

Hi Nick
stupid noob question here-did ross write poetry and know cryptology? do we know both for sure?

also-what do you mean by "Bates diary"?

also, do the three handwritten notes of "bates had to die"? have they been matched to the zodiac's?

re poetry and cryptology. I agree with you-writing poetry would be rare and knowledge of cryptology much rarer still.

[Spiderhawk]

I'm saying that if the cops asked for alibis from 80 men in CJB's diary, then if you ask one question - how many wrote poetry? - mathematically you're going to get under 10 pretty quickly. And then codes is going to be even more rare.

Poetry and cryptography were not obscure subjects back then.

I somewhat agree.

I am guessing that most people write poetry, so the "poetry writing" prerequisite might be too general.

The cryptography might be a better prerequisite in narrowing your search, but you also must consider that zodiac might have never formally trained in cryptography, thus finding a record of interest in codes might be easier said than done.

In the post where you said "had a reason to be in the RCC library" you must remember that there is no evidence that the killer was actually in the library with Cheri jo the night she was killed.

Hi Z
true. but didn't the writer of the typewritten confession say he disabled her car, went in the library then followed her out?
if that letter was written by her killer, and I think it probably was, it may not indicate that he knew bates personally but knew her, and her library habits, perhaps because he had seen her in the library before?

extrapolating from that-Ross worked there. maybe that's where he first saw her and when the stalking began. the writer of the confession also talks about stalking other girls.

[Spiderhawk]

another stupid noob question here in general-

Other than Hams yearbook ross writings-have there been any other known ross writing that matches the zodiacs?

sorry for all the stupid Ross noob questions.