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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby snooter » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:55 pm

We just need 1 solid explicit link where the F ross resided in the bay area...id just take a bread crumb from somebody at a mental facility to say .....here is what i remember...yet we have zilch.....
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby Paul_Averly » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:57 pm

morf13 wrote:Actually Gerald Katz stated that he split time between SF & Santa Cruz, but no paper trail exists of that. And I ask this question-if Ross wasn't in the SF bay area, and didn't drive or was confined to Santa Cruz, then why would his own brother think he was Zodiac?


It would be harder to believe that Ross was never in SF at all. Would he move that far up the state and never visit SF? We have established there was a ymca he could stay at. His brother lived there at the time. SF is a very quick drive up the coast from Santa Cruz.

Ross never setting foot in SF would be very far fetched.
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby Paul_Averly » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:59 pm

snooter wrote:We just need 1 solid explicit link where the F ross resided in the bay area...id just take a bread crumb from somebody at a mental facility to say .....here is what i remember...yet we have zilch.....


It could be what Katz said. If Ross was in and out of ymca hotels, flop houses and rented rooms, there is not going to be much of a paper trail.

I will point out that in 1974 Z mailed a letter from a peninsula zip code. That is very significant to Ross, as the Zip is directly in-between Santa Cruz and SF. Most importantly the Zip represents the area Ross would have been when he was released from Agnews in 1974.
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby snooter » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:42 am

chris9065 wrote:I know Sullivan lived in Santa Cruz. but did he also lived in san Francisco, Vallejo, or Lake Berryessa at the time of the murders?? And is there any connections/links between him and the other victims besides Cheri Jo Bates?


No explicit links exist beyond ross's associstion with bates...its not a deal breaker on ross by any means..but it means more needs to be found/known which can be very frustrating at times in regards to this whole z rabbit hole of mental anguish
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby Zresearch » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:45 am

Xcaliber wrote:In reading the threads it sounds like he's not the NorCal guy because he was too tall.

Yes he could have been hunched over, and yes witnesses can mistake height, yada-yada . . . but too many people have him half a foot shorter than he was.


Aside from height Ross appears to be a rather skinny individual. He definitely does not appear to be the "stocky but not fat" man which zodiac is frequently described as. Ross also does not appear to have a "large face" in proportion to his body.

The "four brown Caucasian head hairs" found on the body of cheri jo also raise questions in relation to ross in my mind. Ross appeared to have blonde hair, not Sandy blonde, or strawberry blonde, or light brown, but blonde.

Was the length of these "four Caucasian head hairs" specified? Were the hairs consistent in length to the length of hair which ross had at the time of the murder? (I understand the hairs could have been fragments, but if the fragments were longer than Ross's hair then it might indicate they were not his. )

A DNA sample from a relative of Ross, or a preserved sample of Ross's DNA, compared to the DNA obtained from the hair, watch, or cigarette butt from the crime scene could easily confirm or eliminate Ross as a suspect. If one seriously wants to make progress in this case than DNA testing is going to be essential.
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby MMSox » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:56 pm

I haven’t heard one description of Ross as skinny. He was one of the bigger guys in the pics we do have and he was well over 200 pounds. Even at 6’2, that’s not skinny.

We agree on dna though. It’s the only hope for this case.
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby morf13 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:29 pm

MMSox wrote:I haven’t heard one description of Ross as skinny. He was one of the bigger guys in the pics we do have and he was well over 200 pounds. Even at 6’2, that’s not skinny.

We agree on dna though. It’s the only hope for this case.


I don't think anybody is really considering Ross skinny. Although, he appears to be stocky, and was described as 260lbs by multiple people
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby MMSox » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:52 pm

morf13 wrote:
MMSox wrote:I haven’t heard one description of Ross as skinny. He was one of the bigger guys in the pics we do have and he was well over 200 pounds. Even at 6’2, that’s not skinny.

We agree on dna though. It’s the only hope for this case.


I don't think anybody is really considering Ross skinny. Although, he appears to be stocky, and was described as 260lbs by multiple people

Zresearch just said “Ross appears to be a rather skinny individual.”
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby Ham Friend » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:50 pm

Zresearch wrote:
Dag MacLugh wrote:ZResearch: If you're acquainted with a LE official interested in the Bates case, please send him/her my way. My POI is, IMO, at least as interesting as Sullivan. I can't blurt out his name, as I believe he's still alive. For openers, his initials are RH.


Unfortunately I do not personally know any law enforcement.

Most active law enforcement agents who are interested in or working on homicide investigations are already incredibly busy on active cases, and simply do not have the time or energy for work on a famous unsolved cold-case like zodiac.

If I encounter anybody in the law enforcement community who might be able to help, there is no doubt that I will send them in the direction of this investigation.

...even if you guys manage to a find a retired law enforcement officer who has connections this could be a huge help.

As for the RH on the desk, unlike many, I feel it likely was the authors initials, so if your suspect is an "RH", than that is a huge plus.



I have pondered the RH for awhile now. Red Head, Red Hood, Red Herring, Robin Hood(was Bates rich??). I truly believe, and its just my opinion, that RH stands for RH Bradshaw. -president of RCC at the time. It was a snarky jab. Obviously, Im not the first to make this connection but it seems to fit the most for me. No slam on your suspect btw, Zresearch; I like him as a suspect too.
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Re: Ross Sullivan

Postby Zresearch » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:15 am

MMSox wrote:
morf13 wrote:
MMSox wrote:I haven’t heard one description of Ross as skinny. He was one of the bigger guys in the pics we do have and he was well over 200 pounds. Even at 6’2, that’s not skinny.

We agree on dna though. It’s the only hope for this case.


I don't think anybody is really considering Ross skinny. Although, he appears to be stocky, and was described as 260lbs by multiple people

Zresearch just said “Ross appears to be a rather skinny individual.”


Perhaps it was a misperception on my part, but in every photograph I have seen of Ross "stocky" is not an adjective that comes to mind.
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