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Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:04 pm
by jamesmsv
Another interesting fact about Ted is that a lot of his life is far more documented and investigated than many other POIs and still he can't be ruled out. Although I suppose the opposite could also be inferred - that all the investigating has failed to show a definitive link.
It's interesting that as time goes on LE seem less keen on DNA matching anyone to Z, it would be unsurprising but a real shame if they had been told that with the advances in tech over the years they have come to realise that the material is not valid in some way.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:15 pm
by BuckwheatFlowers
Seagull wrote:There is Howard Davis's suspect Bruce Davis of the Manson Family who has been in prison for murder for the last 40 or so years. He has another parole hearing coming up next month.
Good point. Forgot about that crazy ******. Bruce, that is.... not his brother Howard.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:53 pm
by AK Wilks
But imo Bruce Davis is ruled out by his hair and beard and also by being in prison for several confirmed Zodiac letters sent in the 1970's. Ted remains the only known suspect who was a murderer who was free for all the mailings and who wrote to newspapers about his crime.
James I agree nothing rules him out and he declined to offer alibi's when asked.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:51 pm
by AK Wilks
Interesting comment from Linda on a Ted journal entry, thought to be 1979. " Speaking of which, another quote directly from the journal of TK identifying his rage, his desire to kill for revenge and use of a gun:
"(Maybe there would still be something better I could strive for, some corner of the world where there's still some wilderness, or other things-but again, I'm so terribly tired of struggling.) For these reasons, I want to get my revenge in one big blast. By accepting death as the price, I won't have to fret and worry about how to plan things so I won't get caught. Moreover, I want to release all my hatred and just go out and kill. When I see a motorcyclist tearing up the mountain meadows, instead of fretting about how I can get revenge on him safely, I just want to watch the bullet rip through his flesh and I want to kick him in the face while he is dying.
You mustn't sense from this that I am currently being tormented by paroxysms of hatred. Actually, during the last few months (except at a few times) I have been troubled by frustrated hatred much less than usual. I think this is because, whenever I have experienced some outrage (such as a low-flying jet or some official stupidity reported in the paper), as I felt myself growing angry, I calmed myself by thinking-"just wait till this summer! Then I'll kill!" Thus, what I've been feeling in recent months is not hot rage, but a cold determination to get my revenge."
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:03 pm
by onewhoknows
Please postulate about Ted and Riverside or direct me to the thread.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:55 pm
by AK Wilks
Given the interest I will create a new topic on that specific point.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:49 pm
by Coffee Time
Ted does impress me more than most POIs, but...
- In news footage from the time of his arrest, Ted doesn't exhibit any kind of a limp whatsoever.
- According to the police report, Mageau gave an estimate of 195-200 lbs., not 160. This falls in line with Fouke (180-200) and the sunbathers (200-210), while Hartnell thought he was even heavier (225-250). Estimates don't prove anything, but the consistency is pretty striking.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:48 am
by AK Wilks
Both had an unusual walk - Officer Fouke said the man he saw at the Stine crime scene walked with a "lumbering gait...a semi-limp", a girl at Lake Berryessa observed that a man watching them who may have been the Zodiac "favored one leg over the other", and David Kaczynski said his brother Ted was "noticably pigeon-toed" and that it "affected the way he walked".
Shot and wounded by the Zodiac on 7/4/69, Michael Mageau thought Zodiac was 25 to 30 years old and 160 pounds, with short hair but sort of combed up in a "pompadour". Probable Zodiac attempted abduction victim Kathleen Johns also put Zodiac at 160 pounds. In this time period, Kaczynski was 5' 9" - 5' 10", 150 to 160 pounds, 27 when Mageau was shot and 28 when Bennallack was murdered.
As you note there are descriptions of Zodiac being heavier. This could be because of differences in view, angle, light, clothes, memory, etc.
As the Unabomber, Ted often took care to disguise his rather trim frame. In one instance he records that he wore multiple shirts, stuffed a towel under the bottom shirt and put wax in his cheeks and nostrils, all designed to make him look heavier than he was.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:45 pm
by Coffee Time
Oh yes, I remember that article now. Mike seemed to be changing his mind about certain details as early as 1969...
Then you have the dramatic contrast between Johns' interviews and the police report, which almost sound like two entirely different incidents. The lack of concrete info in this case is exasperating.
Re: Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:29 pm
by AK Wilks
Hope to be back to posting more over the next few months...
Going through my files, i still think this is a gem. Over two lines, at the end of the code (where we might expect a name?), in 18 characters are the nine letters that spell KAC ZYN SKI.
