Facts & Evidence - Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

[Jelberg]

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[Zresearch]

ITA that Ted is the most likely out of all publicly named poi's to date.

It is also very suspicious that Ted and his brother do not wish to co-operate with DNA testing. Would not sane people wish to be cleared of being the Zodiac?

Ted clearly does not want to be thought of as insane and I'll assume he wouldn't want to be thought of as "asinine" lol although he does seem to have a sense of humor of sorts from what I've read.

This hood is very suspicious but an innocent explanation for it just came to me after reading this. Wasn't Ted killing rabbits for food? He was living in the woods and living a very primative lifestyle. Also, the weather in Illinois is very harsh with lots of insects in the summer and very cold snowy conditions in the winter.

I'm thinking perhaps he had this mask and wore it when he was hunting animals for food and/or when he was preparing them for consumption and also to protect himself from bug bites such as mosquitos and frostbite.

While this could serve as a potential explanation, I tend to agree with AK in that a hood like that doesn't seem very reasonable as a hunting accessory.

I know plenty of hunters and "outdoors-men" that live incredibly rustic and primitive lives, even hunting for their own food, yet a can not recall ever seeing masks of this sort being used.

If masks like this are used by hunters then please correct me, as I am not very familiar with this type of thing, but just based off of my opinion at first glance I am having trouble trying to envision it.

I wonder if one of the reasons Ted had this hood was simply to wear during bomb construction and letter writing. As AK mentioned Ted knows all about how DNA and fingerprinting work. If you wore a hood like this, I would imagine it would catch most of the DNA (coughing/sweating/breathing/shedding hair) and minimize the chance that it would be deposited on one of the letters/bombs.

Maybe...

Though when it comes to brainstorming reasons why someone would need a creepy mask like that, it would be pretty low on my list.

Just the fact that Ted makes such masks is significant regardless of what he used it for, I mean, how many POI's have a history of making creepy masks, specially masks which are made in a fashion which leaves the top box-like in appearance....

[AK Wilks]

I wonder if one of the reasons Ted had this hood was simply to wear during bomb construction and letter writing. As AK mentioned Ted knows all about how DNA and fingerprinting work. If you wore a hood like this, I would imagine it would catch most of the DNA (coughing/ sweating /breathing/ shedding hair) and minimize the chance that it would be deposited on one of the letters/bombs.

Maybe...

Though when it comes to brainstorming reasons why someone would need a creepy mask like that, it would be pretty low on my list.

Just the fact that Ted makes such masks is significant regardless of what he used it for, I mean, how many POI's have a history of making creepy masks, specially masks which are made in a fashion which leaves the top box-like in appearance....

When making bombs and writing letters, we know that Ted wore gloves on his hands. I would guess he also might have worn a surgical mask that you can buy in drug stores to protect against colds and flus, or even a hairnet that you can buy. I don't see this heavy canvas mask being at all useful for the purpose of preventing hairs and touch DNA getting on substances, and it will be very hard to work with it on.

And yes, we can save that Zodiac and Kaczynski were people who designed and made hoods, hoods that are flat on top and hoods that have rectangular eye slits. I don't think you can say that for any other suspect!

[Zresearch]

I wonder if one of the reasons Ted had this hood was simply to wear during bomb construction and letter writing. As AK mentioned Ted knows all about how DNA and fingerprinting work. If you wore a hood like this, I would imagine it would catch most of the DNA (coughing/ sweating /breathing/ shedding hair) and minimize the chance that it would be deposited on one of the letters/bombs.

Maybe...

Though when it comes to brainstorming reasons why someone would need a creepy mask like that, it would be pretty low on my list.

Just the fact that Ted makes such masks is significant regardless of what he used it for, I mean, how many POI's have a history of making creepy masks, specially masks which are made in a fashion which leaves the top box-like in appearance....

When making bombs and writing letters, we know that Ted wore gloves on his hands. I would guess he also might have worn a surgical mask that you can buy in drug stores to protect against colds and flus, or even a hairnet that you can buy. I don't see this heavy canvas mask being at all useful for the purpose of preventing hairs and touch DNA getting on substances, and it will be very hard to work with it on.

And yes, we can save that Zodiac and Kaczynski were people who designed and made hoods, hoods that are flat on top and hoods that have rectangular eye slits. I don't think you can say that for any other suspect!

That's what I was saying. I mean, does it really matter what Ted was using the photographed mask for?

The mask itself is evidence that your POI, for whatever reason, had a history of constructing masks which were produced in a fashion which left the top box-like.

...there are just too many connections here, Even if they are circumstantial connections.

[AK Wilks]

This is Ted 1985 and the newly released sketch of the suspect in the Joan Webster murder case, the bearded man seen talking to Joan Webster before she was abducted and killed, the last person to ever talk to her. There is specific reason to think the afro hair was a wig, aside from the fact that it looks like a wig. There is also specific evidence to link TK to this 1981 crime and the series of east coast crimes of which I think this is part of, namely Betsy Aardsma, Penn State student November 28, 1969 and Joan Webster, Harvard student, November 28, 1981. Including a witness who picked TK out of a photo line up as being in the Penn State library on Nov. 27, 1969, acting suspiciously and wearing an afro wig.

I see some basic similarities in the nose, eyes, white hairs in the beard on the chin, general sort of weathered look of the skin. What do people think?

At times Ted did have a beard as developed as the one in the sketch.

Also, is anyone good at photoshop who could do a side by side comparison photo?

Ted Kaczynski 1985 Medium.jpg

Webster Bearded Suspect Sketch Medium.jpg

[Richard Grinell]

[AK Wilks]

Thanks very much. By putting the full beard and the afro wig on the picture of Ted Kaczynski, it looks amazingly like the sketch. The nose seems identical, the lines on the face seem identical, and the lips and eyes are similar. Thanks again.

What do other people think? Pro, con or mixed.

[capricorn]

ITA it looks like him. Now the question is why isn't Ted being actively investigated for these crimes?

The picture of him looks just like the man who sat next to me on a flight from Denver to Chicago circa 1990 as I am remembering the man now. Is there anyway to determine if he could have been in the area at that time? If so, I'd be willing to bet it really was Ted K. (which if so would really make me wonder if he and my poi knew each other and had this pre-planned).

[AK Wilks]

ITA it looks like him. Now the question is why isn't Ted being actively investigated for these crimes?

The picture of him looks just like the man who sat next to me on a flight from Denver to Chicago circa 1990 as I am remembering the man now. Is there anyway to determine if he could have been in the area at that time? If so, I'd be willing to bet it really was Ted K. (which if so would really make me wonder if he and my poi knew each other and had this pre-planned).

Ted was not visiting his family in 1990, and I doubt he would be on a plane from Denver to Chicago. Do you have the actual date of the flight?

As far as Ted collaborating with anybody, that's basically impossible. He was a lone wolf. He did not collaborate or work with anybody in his Unabomber crimes, and he would not work with anyone or collaborate with anyone in any other crimes he may have committed.

[AK Wilks]

Penn has blonde hair and beard. For decades he was the most prominent, indeed pretty much the only, investigator of the Joan Webster case. Of course he fingered O'Hare for the case, but he did get some publicity and interest in the case and communicated with police and the media. He is not a suspect in the Webster case. He was not Zodiac.

In any event, discuss him and put pictures of him in a Penn thread, not here.