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Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:14 pm
by AK Wilks
Boo! wrote:Yeah okay fair enough :D

Ted just struck me as one of those genius types who wouldn't like to look dumb.



No, you see in fact Ted wanted to appear "dumb", or at least non-college educated and not a holder of a PHD. Ted had a PHD in math and was very well read in many subjects, history, anthropology, English Lit, etc., and was a good writer. He was very worried that if he wrote the Unabomber letters in his natural ability, the FBI would determine he was college educated and probably even had an advanced degree.


So he deliberately used more dumbed down langauge and made intentional spelling errors - as many think Zodiac did. Ted as the Unabomber even complained about a computer experts book that said "virtually anyone with a college education can quickly learn how to use a computer." Ted as the Unabomber quoted this passage and said "Oh yeah? What about the rest of us without college degrees?"


And Ted's deception worked at first. The initial FBI profile of the Unabomber had him as a laid off blue collar airplane mechanic, with no college education.


And as Jelberg shows above with the quote from the FBI report, Ted made his codes harder to break by including intentional misspellings, just as Zodiac did. The following is only one example of many"

Jem wrote:Z - misspells words, probably intentionally in most cases. Examples of last consonant in word changed to a vowel in the Z408.
TK - encodes "yesterday" as YESTERDAE.


ZODIAC CODE

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UNABOMBER CODE

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Zodiac 408 Code: DANGEROUE
Unabomber Code: YESTERDAE

AK Wilks: Both Zodiac and Kaczynski have a code in which in order to increase difficulty of solution they change the last consonant in a word (S,Y) to the vowel "E".

Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:26 pm
by doranchak
AK Wilks wrote:Zodiac 408 Code: DANGEROUE
Unabomber Code: YESTERDAE

AK Wilks: Both Zodiac and Kaczynski have a code in which in order to increase difficulty of solution they change the last consonant in a word (S,Y) to the vowel "E".


It is not a settled matter that Zodiac purposefully added a mistake to make the cipher harder. We still have to rule out an encipherment or transcription error. For example, see: http://zodiackillerciphers.com/408/key.html#sup8

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Note how close the "I" symbols are with each other. "E" and "F" can be easy to mistake sometimes too depending on how they are written. One explanation is that he made a first draft of the cipher, then screwed it up a bit when copying it by hand. Or, all the reproductions of the ciphers aren't of sufficient quality to be sure we are seeing the exact way the symbols were written in the original cipher received by the newspapers.

Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:42 am
by AK Wilks
Interesting and a possibility to be considered. But I don't think it holds up to analysis. F and E are not that easily confused. Encipherment or transcription error might account for one or two spelling mistakes. But look at the spelling mistakes in the Zodiac 408:


1. Forrest
2. Dangeroue
3. Anamal
4. Experence
5. Thae
6. Paradice
7. Thei
8. Sloi
9. Atop
10. Collectiog

I think the evidence shows that the Zodiac 408 Code is filled with intentional spelling errors, at least ten, designed to increase the difficulty of solution and/or make the creator seem non-college educated. In that way they are similar to the Unabomber code. The Zodiac letters themselves have many intentional misspellings, also like the Unabomber letters.

Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:03 am
by doranchak
How does the presence of mistakes/misspellings prove that they are intentional?

Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:16 pm
by Jelberg
doranchak wrote:How does the presence of mistakes/misspellings prove that they are intentional?


Do you find it interesting how many of the mistakes take:
1)the correct consonant and swap it for a vowel
or
2)the correct vowel and swap it with another vowel?

Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:45 pm
by AK Wilks
doranchak wrote:How does the presence of mistakes/misspellings prove that they are intentional?


I don't think the letter E and the letter F are as easily mistaken as you state, nor do I think the other symbols are as easily and frequently confused as to lead to so many encipherment or transcription errors.

I'm not claiming the number of spelling errors is absolute proof of anything. But I am ssaying for me that one or two, or even three, spelling errors would be more believable as encipherment or transcription errors. When you're talking about 10 spelling errors to me that makes it lean more towards intentional.

Also the Zodiac letters themselves are filled with spelling errors. I don't know if this topic has been previously discussed at this forum . But I've seen analysis of it that notes how many words of medium and even hard difficulty are spelled correctly by the Zodiac, but often simple words are spelled wrong, sometimes extremely wrong

The pattern of misspellings in the letters strikes me as very likely intentional. To me it speaks to the writer trying to disguise his education and to make himself seem dumber.

I think overall the Zodiac odiac comes across as fairly intelligent. Not only did he commit several murders and get away with it, he created codes that have defied the efforts of the FBI, police and amateurs to break them. His letters are otherwise articulate, intelligent and convey information in an organized fashion.

The presence of 10 spelling errors in The fairly short 408 code comes across to me as being that all or the majority were intentional spelling errors, designed to increase the difficulty of solution and/or disguise the education and literacy of the creator. Like almost every other element of the Zodiac odiac case, it could be debated, with some good points made on both sides.

That both Zodiac and Kaczynski likely created codes that used intentional spelling errors to increase difficulty of solution, and both sent letters to authorities that used intentional spelling errors to deceive about their education and literacy, they both created elaborate codes that could not be broken by the FBI, they both wrote letters to newspapers threatening to kill innocents unless their words were published in the paper. are just more examples of things they had in common.

Even to the point that they both replace a constant with a vowel. But I wouldn't say those examples above are the most important similarities. Equally or more important is that both seem obsessed with couples, couples that were engaged in or about to engage in sexual activity and both exhibited a desire to kill such couples.

Zodiac by going to lovers lanes, stalking couples and attacking them. Kaczynski by noting in his diary that while on the U of M campus the sound of couples next door in the room to his making love drove him crazy, and he included couples and promiscuous men and women on his list of people that he really hated and thought that he could now really kill, in September of 1966.

Both left crossed lines inside circles at crime scenes, that also conveyed the information of the type of weapon used and took credit for previous crimes.

Of next importance I'd site the 26 words and even multi word phrases that both zodiac and Kaczynski used. And then I would say the items found in Ted's cabin, which are exactly the items you would theorize would be found in Zodiac's cabin: A handmade black hood with rectangular eye slits,. .22 Winchester Super X ammo, a weapon with a flashlight attached to the barrel, etc., and many of the other things that I have covered in a different topic thread.

Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:27 pm
by doranchak
AK Wilks wrote:I don't think the letter E and the letter F are as easily mistaken as you state

It's odd to dismiss this so easily. If he was working from a first draft, he could have easily mis-transcribed it when making the final version to mail to the papers. People make all sorts of transcription errors when copying things.
Further, we don't have access to his first draft, so we don't know how much that E looked like an F. Maybe the bottom horizontal line of the E was fairly short compared to "normal" Es. And we don't know how much attention to detail he really gives to these things.

The misspelling of "dangerous" is not the only one that can be explained by symbol confusion or transcription errors. "Thae" vs "that" could have been confusion between symbols H and N. Depending on how those symbols are written, it's not hard to imagine mistaking them.

Some of the other misspellings are due to the triangle symbols (filled triangle, dotted triangle, and empty triangle). Either he didn't pay too close attention when transcribing, or intentionally swapped them around.

"Sloi" vs "Slow" is due to using hollow triangle instead of "A". Again, "A" looks like a triangle.

So either he intentionally introduced these errors (and they happened to involve similarly-looking symbols), or they are genuine sloppy mistakes.

Both are possible but I lean more towards the latter since there is a pattern of confusion over similarly-looking symbols. Why were the mistakes limited to similar-looking symbols? Why not just pick symbols at random to change? I guess a mastermind like Kaczynski might think like that but honest mistakes are a simpler explanation IMO.

Re: Period 19, Fibonacci, Game Theory, Nash Equilibrium

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:39 pm
by Jelberg
doranchak wrote:Why were the mistakes limited to similar-looking symbols? Why not just pick symbols at random to change? I guess a mastermind like Kaczynski might think like that but honest mistakes are a simpler explanation IMO.


Random symbols would look like intentional obfuscation, while look-alike symbols would easily make it look like somebody who didn't know what they were doing created the cipher.

There are multiple instances of
this train of thought in Kaczynski's journals
and the letters he mailed as FC.

(The following are from Unabomber: The Secret Life of Ted Kaczynski by Chris Waits (Author), Dave Shors (Author))

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He would even go so far as to make charts weighing the outcome of his deceptions...


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