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snooter wrote:the hood located in his possession raised many an eye brow...

It looks like it could be the lining of a larger hood.

I am still under belief z was associated with berkley ...

Yes, seems very likely.

i like the baseball connection reference as well...

That one I don't understand, but I new at the TK thing.

linking tk into cjb is going to be a monumental task..i do not think tk has any connection to cjb

Agreed. That's why I asked is there anything showing TK in California earlier. I'm wondering if he knew her somehow, even a brief encounter.

but this is z so who the hell can say positivly what is and what is not..

Agreed again, hard to rule anything out or rule anything in when it comes to Zodiac.

No known evidence of any prior trips to California that we could find.

Having said that, Ted was known to wander and there are vast stretches of time where he is simply unaccounted for. For example, there were times at the University of Michigan classmates said he would show up for the first day of class and then not show up for another lecture the entire semester. His classmates thought he would fail the class, but then he would show up again on the last day, and ace the test or turn in a paper that would win an award.

So there are several 3 month stretches were on paper he is attending class at the University of Michigan. But in reality we have no idea where he was at. And he was known to travel iand explore woods, mountains and wilderness areas, both by car and on foot.

Zresearch wrote:I also never would have thought of Ted as being zodiac, but the case presented here, as well as in other threads, is quite convincing.

Very interesting stuff.

Yeah, same here. I would have given the thought of TK being the Zodiac an eye-roll before. I still have that nagging thought it couldn't be him, but I'm very open to the possibility now.

Some things TK has going for him for being Zodiac are, the proper mind-set, not only the ability to kill but the smarts to get away with it - the Berkley connection - solitude and mobility - similarities in writing styles.

I remember you and I discussing the supposed misspellings in another thread but like in TK's manifesto, those aren't really misspellings, some are old uses of the words, some are word play. I've known people who do that, throw mispronunciations or misspelling out, just to see who catches it, who's really paying attention.

AK Wilks wrote:No known evidence of any prior trips to California that we could find.

Having said that, Ted was known to wander and there are vast stretches of time where he is simply unaccounted for. For example, there were times at the University of Michigan classmates said he would show up for the first day of class and then not show up for another lecture the entire semester. His classmates thought he would fail the class, but then he would show up again on the last day, and ace the test or turn in a paper that would win an award.

So there are several 3-month scratches, or on paper he is attending class at the University of Michigan. But in reality we have no idea where he was at. And he was known to travel in woods, 4S mountains and Wilderness areas, both by car and on foot.

Yes, one of the main things he has going for him as a suspect is he seemed quite the nomad. Interesting his attorney could not provide an alibi for any of the Zodiac murders. Not sure TK ever had a real friend either, kind of a lifetime loner.

One more thing that caught my attention. Would anyone else describe this guy as having a "large face" and "pompadour hairdo"?

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Jelberg wrote:This was accidently left out of the false evidence section.

The monotone voice
- TJK has a very distinct and high-pitched voice with a fast cadence.

TJK used disguises and planted false clues, countermeasures used to avoid identification.

His voice is pretty unique, unique enough to be easily identified if you had heard it before. It would be logical that he would have to disguise his voice when speaking to victims in an up close encounter. With the adrenaline during the crimes, it would probably be difficult and require conscious effort to disguise his voice. (** IF TJK was responsible for the Z crimes **)

A slow and monotone speech pattern, with pauses before answering victims questions,
could be an effective tactic to disguise his unique voice.

hmm, that's certainly a strike against him being Zodiac, along with not being "beefy" or large built as Zodiac is sometimes described. I'd say TK was smart enough to disguise his voice and learn how to do it. If so, he certainly fooled Hartnell, who said the guy was not well educated.

One thing that has concerned me for a long time is the confession letter..it is typed in all capital letters...who does that???...cops and military thats who...yea tk could have done this as a disguise no doubt....i hope whoever can find a link between cjb and tk, x, or ala..right now ross is the only person confirmed as being in that library

snooter wrote:One thing that has concerned me for a long time is the confession letter..it is typed in all capital letters...who does that???...cops and military thats who...yea tk could have done this as a disguise no doubt....i hope whoever can find a link between cjb and tk, x, or ala..right now ross is the only person confirmed as being in that library

I was in the military and law enforcement, and we did not type letters in all caps. The confession letter was probably done in all caps and through carbon paper to help disguise the typewriter brand.

I can't show a link to Bates, but I don't think Zodiac had prior relationships, links or knowledge of any of his victims. All the confirmed Z victims seem to have been chosen at random, or at best, chosen because they represent a type. Couples in remote lovers lanes, a couple by a lake, a cab driver, a college girl leaving the library.

The confession letter stuff about 'brush offs over the years' seems another false clue of the type identified above by Jelberg. Designed to make police think Bates was killed by a local boy, somebody who knew Bates.

Doug at Unazod identified that in this time, Ted approached a female college student that he did not know, struck up a conversation with her and walked her back to her dorm. This was a time when people were less suspicious, and Ted himself at that time looked very much like a normal, unthreatening college student.

He had short hair and wore a suit and tie. I think Cheri Jo Bates would not have been put off by his appearance, and in fact would have felt very comfortable by his appearance. Given that she could not start her car, would feel safer with him walking her a distance to maybe a payphone or a bus stop.

Ted went to great lengths as the Unabomber to disguise his education. Including complaining about a writer who said anyone with a college degree could understand how to use a computer. Ted said "What about the rest of us with no college?" He also used limited vocabulary, misspelled words, etc., so that the FBI profile had him as an uneducated airplane mechanic, no college.

It is a myth, built by Graysmith and others, that Z was real heavy. In fact the main descriptions match Ted.

Mageau: 5'8"-5'9", 160 pounds.
Johns: 5'10", 160 pounds
Officer Fouke: 5'8", "heavy build", but later clarified he meant 180 - 200 pounds, and said the 260 pound Allen was "100 pounds heavier" than the person he saw that night in San Francisco at the Stine murder scene.