Circumstantial Evidence

[Jelberg]

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[Druzer]

Holy smokes, thanks for the work here!

[CuriousCat]

Not long after, Ted would move to California to teach at Berkeley, and Cheri Jo Bates would be murdered in Riverside.

Hypothetically speaking, if TJK was Z, and responsible for the Bates murder, could she have reminded him of this "Ms. Z" or another female he was rejected by? Ted is known to have traveled significant distances alone and frequent Libraries and college campuses.

Not to shoot holes in your theory but Bates was murdered October of '66 and TK was still at the U of Michigan, he didn't go to Berkley until '67.

[AK Wilks]

Not long after, Ted would move to California to teach at Berkeley, and Cheri Jo Bates would be murdered in Riverside.

Hypothetically speaking, if TJK was Z, and responsible for the Bates murder, could she have reminded him of this "Ms. Z" or another female he was rejected by? Ted is known to have traveled significant distances alone and frequent Libraries and college campuses.

Not to shoot holes in your theory but Bates was murdered October of '66 and TK was still at the U of Michigan, he didn't go to Berkley until '67.

TJK entered the graduate program at the University of Michigan in 1962. But by summer of 1966, Ted had completed all of his coursework for his Ph.D and only needed to finish writing his thesis. Finishing the writing of thesis could be done at any campus of any university, or at home. In short after the summer of 1966, there was nothing to tie him down so that he had to be at the University of Michigan campus in Ann Arbor.

In fact we know that in the fall - winter of 1966 he was in the state of California, where he filled out and signed an application for the teaching position at the University of California. He was eventually hired to teach at the University of California, Berkley campus. But the University of California also has campuses in Riverside and Los Angeles. Ted started teaching at UCB in Spring 67.

So at the time of the Bates murder in October of 1966, we know that there is nothing forcing him to be back at the Michigan campus, and he was in fact in the state of California around that time.

What you posted Jelberg looks extremely interesting and compelling. I'm looking forward to studying it, and once I do I will have some comments and questions for sure. Great job!

[CuriousCat]

In fact we know that in the fall - winter of 1966 he was in the state of California, where he filled out and signed an application for the teaching position at the University of California.

But did he actually appear in California to fill out the application? I'm sure it could have been done by mail, especially someone with the right recommendations. Not being argumentative, just don't know. I mean, I'm sure he went there at some point for an in person interview regardless.

BTW, good work in your thread on TK. I had never seriously considered him as Zodiac until reading it. I now find TK being Zodiac highly plausible.

[AK Wilks]

The information we have is that he interviewed on the campus of the University of California - Berkeley and you can see the application he filled out by hand and signed on the first page of this thread.

Also he actually started teaching at the University of California - Berkeley in April of 1967. That means he had to have a place to stay, furniture, a car, etc. So he had to have moved to California to buy those things and get that all set up, perhaps in the fall - winter of 66, when we know he was in California for the interview.

[AK Wilks]

Jelberg, still studying your excellent post and the information in it. I'll have some comments and questions about it to post tomorrow. Excellent work.

[snooter]

Excellent on all accounts..ted has looked good to me for years...the hood located in his possession raised many an eye brow...cannot prove jack crap unfortunatly and the fbi will not touch this case in regards to any tk similarities with the z...still fine work by you jelberg - great post

I am still under belief z was associated with berkley ...i like the baseball connection reference as well...linking tk into cjb is going to be a monumental task..i do not think tk has any connection to cjb but this is z so who the hell can say positivly what is and what is not..

[Zresearch]

I also never would have thought of Ted as being zodiac, but the case presented here, as well as in other threads, is quite convincing.

Very interesting stuff.

I keep an open mind, and can simultaneously investigate several potential suspects, and the case here has surly piqued my interest.

[CuriousCat]

The information we have is that he interviewed on the campus of the University of California - Berkeley and you can see the application he filled out by hand and signed on the first page of this thread.

Also he actually started teaching at the University of California - Berkeley in April of 1967. That means he had to have a place to stay, furniture, a car, etc. So he had to have moved to California to buy those things and get that all set up, perhaps in the fall - winter of 66, when we know he was in California for the interview.

Thanks for the info. Before I go digging I'll pick your brain if you don't mind. Is there anything showing TK was in California before the time of CJB's murder? Even just short visits?