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Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:16 pm
by EndOfTheWorld
Don't know if this has been brought up before. (Probably has.) Since Ted was travelling with David (maybe) at the times of the last two attacks, is it possible that David became an accomplice to Ted in the last two murders? I've read he looked up to his big brother a lot. David's pictures look a little like the PH composites. A team at PH would maybe explain the quick getaway. Just an idea. Of course David is not a convicted serial killer like TK but just bringing up the possibility.

Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:38 pm
by Tahoe27
I think that is a stretch~and almost borderline inappropriate to bring up.

Sure things are "possible", but I don't know why it would even be taken into consideration? Either Ted fits the bill or he doesn't--why the need to question the possibility of his brother's involvement?

Re: Maybe David helped Ted kill.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:56 pm
by EndOfTheWorld
Why? Because like I said David was ostensibly traveling with Ted during the time period of the last two attacks, looking for land. If you think Ted did do it, mainly because of the similarity of the two media circuses, then you have to deal with the fact that David might have known about it, or he might have just suspected, or he might have actively helped TK. Or maybe he wasn't traveling with him during all of that time. We don't have a complete rundown of what dates they were traveling together, looking for land. And David does look a little like the PH composite. And, having a getaway driver would help explain why they never tracked down the Zodiac at PH. And, it's my understanding the two brothers were very close.

Re: Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:04 am
by AK Wilks
Doug Oswell raised this issue before, but only briefly mentioning the question of whether David could have ever acted as an accomplice. Doug looked more at the question if David knew more about possible Unabomber and even Zodiac actions of Ted early on than he revealed. He cites the unpublished manuscript of a book by a friend of David presumably written with information and ideas from David. The "fictional" book was about a Berkeley professor who hates and fears technology and computers, and acted out by doing knife murders. Hmm, sound like anyone we know? But I've never seen any evidence David acted as an accomplice. Had David been an Accomplice he would not have turned in his brother, putting himself at risk. And if he had Ted would have returned the favor.

Re: Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:12 am
by Tahoe27
Well, it seems if what his brother says is true, they spent the whole summer of 1969 together.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/s ... -unabomber

So if one believes David (and there is no reason not to), you'd pretty much HAVE to go down that road---or dismiss Ted as a suspect. ;)

I think it very unfortunate to mix David up in this matter, as a potential murderer and/or accomplice, to help justify Ted as Zodiac.

Re: Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:15 am
by EndOfTheWorld
It's my understanding he pretty much HAD to turn in his brother because he told his wife about his suspicions, and she MADE him rat out Ted. Otherwise, she would have done it herself, so it was a better option for him to do it so he could have some control over any deals made, etc. If he was traveling around with Ted and Ted committed one or more murders and David knew about it but kept his mouth shut, then he was basically an accomplice anyway. And Ted would understand the situation somewhat and be happy David ratted him out only for the Unabomber stuff and not the Zodiac crimes. I'd like to learn more about that fiction manuscript mentioned above--- is this confirmed by multiple sources?

Re: Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:29 am
by EndOfTheWorld
"...if one believes David (and there's no reason not to)"---he could have made up the story to give Ted a half-ass alibi for the Zodiac murders. Not a solid alibi because David never revealed all the places and dates of the trip, as far as I know. Possibly because the trip was completely or partially fictitious.

Re: Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:04 am
by Tahoe27
You would HAVE to think it fictitious if you think Ted was Zodiac.

Re: Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:17 am
by AK Wilks
It is also possible David is just mistaken about the year. David thought Ted left California to come back to live with his parents in the fall-winter of 1969, while telling the FBI his memory was "vague" and "dream like". In fact Ted has written that it happened in 1971. David may be similarly mistaken about the year of the trip.

Re: Did Ted Have An Accomplice?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:10 am
by EndOfTheWorld
"You would HAVE to think it's fictitious if you think Ted was the Zodiac." Why? The story is they were traveling around the entire western US, and Canada. California is one of the places they were looking, if I remember correctly. It's only natural that Ted would want to show his brother around the bay area a little since they were basically two close brothers traveling around. You'd assume that sight seeing, maybe a little skirt chasing, who knows what all was included under the rubric of "traveling around looking for land." I'm not an expert on the life of Ted K, but as far as I know David was his only friend close enough to take a trip like this with.