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Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:02 pm
by bmichelle
I cannot see any point in Ted having these shoes/mask other than to stalk someone. Possibly using them when peeking in windows to disguise his own shoe size. I doubt he was trying to stop trackers from tracking him in the woods like wild game. I smell something foul. If his only method of killing was from a distance such as mailing bombs he would have no use for these other items. This shows me he could be up close and personal with evil intentions and not excluding him from being Z.

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:03 pm
by EndOfTheWorld
bmichelle, some people think Ted Kaczinski was the Zodiac. Check out the Oswell book. As he puts it (I'm paraphrasing): you may or may not believe TK was the Zodiac. But you have to admit the similarities are amazing. The handwriting is not a perfect match but close, to where he could have been disguising his handwriting just a little.

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:27 am
by bmichelle
EndOfTheWorld
I do not have a clear POI. Yet, I do have a few people I consider to be possibilities. But Ted is a very strong candidate as far as I am concerned. His handwriting is such a great match in my opinion. Plus, all the other factors. Logically--if I were LE he would be the one I would hunt, break down the time line, zero in on all the evidence, and determine if/or not-- he is a possibility. Why this has not been done is mind boggling to me. At this point in time--I would think there would be open evidence to the public as to what Ted "was" or "was not."

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:39 am
by EndOfTheWorld
I have a theory that the possible reasons they never completely investigated TK are: (1) It's possible when his brother turned him in some kind of deal was made that if he confessed to the Unabomber crimes, they would leave him alone on other stuff; (2) They didn't want to take him to a real trial because he might start blabbing about his experience with MK Ultra; (3) He got locked up for life so at least he's not murdering any more citizens. Somebody on one of these threads said the Zodiac case had been solved internally and just kept quiet. LE doesn't have to tell us civilians everything.

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:56 pm
by zodiphile
a 10 1/2 sized shoe is roughly 13 inches long!!!! It is not a HUGE shoe and too large to be size 10-11. I have no idea what size shoe you wear but take it off and take a tape measure and measure the length of the outsole. I wear a 9 1/2 shoe and my sole measures 12.5 inches long. The shoe print was from a shoe sized 10-11 (probably 10.5). These prints have to be the killers prints, unless he had a hover board!

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:58 pm
by EndOfTheWorld
I just measured my shoes with a tape measure. I wear size 11 1/2 and my shoes are roughly 12 inches long. Extrapolating from this, a 13 inch long shoe would be about a size 12 1/2.

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:10 pm
by Tahoe27
^^^Between these last two posts, I am now confuzzled. :? :)

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:30 pm
by Seagull
I just measured my hubby's Wellington boots. He wears a size 9 1/2 and the soles are 12 1/2" long. Then I measured a pair of lace-up shoes, not sneakers but similar in style. They are also size 9 1/2 and are 11 5/8" long. I guess it depends on the style of the shoe and how much toe room the shoes have.

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:09 pm
by AK Wilks
I wear a 10 1/2 shoe kinda similar to a wing walker military type shoe, and it measures about 11 3/4 inches. Lets leave out boots. Based on other responses here I would say a typical 10 1/2 shoe would NOT measure 13 inches. It seems most 10 1/2 shoes would measure between 11 inches to 12 inches.

Re: " Lake Berryessa footprints prove it wasn't TK"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:18 pm
by EndOfTheWorld
Yeah, a wellington boot is a special case due to the long pointed toe. So the mystery still remains why they found a shoeprint 13 inches long and said it was a size 10 1/2 wing walker.