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Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:59 pm
by od88
bigbuckdownnc wrote:This article shows letters previously posted in this thread but the similarities are amazing. He uses hyphens between words like in the red phantom letter and long lines to separate paragraphs like in the bomb letter. But has anyone seen the last letter? It’s a Halloween card that has a symbol and on the inside that says hope you have a blast? Has anyone confirmed if this is real?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-unabombe ... 59693.html



It is real. It's from the Wingnut Anarchist Collective in Richmond, Virginia. I contacted the former leader earlier this year and she remembers when they sent it but had no idea it had been put in an archive.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:47 pm
by Jelberg
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Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:55 am
by Daxide
And apparently the poem carved on the desk, related to the Cherri Jo Bates murder, contains the sentence "sick of living, unwilling to die".
This appears to be a quote from the Earl of Clarendon, author of a History of Rebellion. We know TK, as an anarchist, was extremely well read on the history of revolutions, rebellions and civil wars and books on such topics were found in his cabin.https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/august-23rd-2016
Also, Cipher 408 produces a match with the text from a book called "The life of Edward, Earl of Clarendon, lord high chancellor of England: Volume 2”
http://www.zodiackillerciphers.com/?p=144

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:52 pm
by Jelberg
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Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:11 pm
by AK Wilks
I agree with you that the Zodiac picking this card which has a tree in it is yet another instance of Zodiac making reference to wood and nature themes in his crimes. For example, the Stine crime was committed at Maple and Cherry, two types of trees, to the "Peek through the Pines" card that zodiac sent impossible reference to Donna Lass, the crimes committed near water or near water named streets and cities, and many other examples.

But the things you noticed in particular on that tree are common features of many trees. And I'm under the impression that the Halloween card drawing of a tree was part of the commercially manufactured card. Zodiac then wrote additional eyes and other things on the card, but I thought, and I could be wrong, that the tree was part of the commercially mass-produced card.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:20 pm
by Jelberg
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Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:08 pm
by AK Wilks
Jelberg wrote:
AK Wilks wrote: but I thought, and I could be wrong, that the tree was part of the commercially mass-produced card.


I haven't been able to find where anybody has proven it was mass produced. Do you have any links? I have seen cards that have similar wording but not an exact version of the Halloween card graphics (aside from the obvious modifications Z made). I'm interested to hear from the people that have looked into this in depth if they believe it was handmade. Also if they have found any more information about it.


I would go to the confirmed letters section and the Halloween Card area and request that someone post the original Halloween card as it was offered for sale.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:18 pm
by Mr lowe
one also has to wonder how big and what did that tree look like 48 years ago.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:55 pm
by doranchak
Jelberg wrote:
AK Wilks wrote: but I thought, and I could be wrong, that the tree was part of the commercially mass-produced card.


I haven't been able to find where anybody has proven it was mass produced. Do you have any links? I have seen cards that have similar wording but not an exact version of the Halloween card graphics (aside from the obvious modifications Z made). I'm interested to hear from the people that have looked into this in depth if they believe it was handmade. Also if they have found any more information about it.


I've been trying to find the original card for a long time now, and continue to fail. Has anyone ever been able to get another of the same card? As far as I can tell, no one has been able to.

I also tried to locate the original die cut skeleton that he presumably pasted inside the card. I failed on that front as well: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=2899

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:59 pm
by doranchak
AK Wilks wrote:I would go to the confirmed letters section and the Halloween Card area and request that someone post the original Halloween card as it was offered for sale.

Do you have a link to the offer? I can't find any evidence that anyone has ever had one of the original cards.