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Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:40 am
by Mr lowe
Wow very tender Mr Wilks ,Jeez I was only making an observation. Sure Ted did all that stuff. Just didn't do the 4 right enough for me, but really hard to compare with the few known writings of Z. I do not profess to and am not disciplined in the art of forensic handwriting analalsys. And I don't discount anyone, you made that asumption on my behalf for which I dont accept, and one certainly would not discount anyone because of a singular digit, the number 4. Lots to like about similarities in teddys writings, forensically have any professionals ever declared him and Z one and the same in writing? If so case closed! We move on. So back to the 4, you will find one or two of z closed. But nearly all teds open . Be your own Devils advocate, that's the hardest thing to do. Simple observations in a discussion does not need your shitty reply because it does not suit you. And you will mourn my absense? WTF.... No smilies.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:48 am
by AK Wilks
Just using a little humor.

My point was you are entitled to your opinion. It seemed to me you were DQing a suspect on the basis of how he wrote 4.

Maybe I am just frustrated with the case.

I wish you well. Happy holidays to you and everyone.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:43 am
by Mr lowe
I am only a newbie and can only imagine the frustrations you zodiac hunters are going through in such a complex case. I wish you all the best in your endeavors and I to wish you and your family and friends a great festive season. Hopefully in the new year something will come to light that will clear the case for all of the devoted hard work installed into this web site.
Cheers to all who celebrate the season upon us..

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:44 pm
by TheSingingDetective
I've poured through several pieces of his handwriting and can't find one example of the '+' style and sign.
This bothers me.
The one stroke, down from the top, going back up and to the left, before looping back to the right type of and sign
appears in at least the first half dozen Z letters.
But not a TK trait, as far as I can tell.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:33 pm
by AK Wilks
Very well then. If you wish to exclude TK because he does a + sign differently then that is your choice.

To me it does not make sense to disregard all the evidence above because of ONE trait like a 4 or a + .

But that is me. To each their own.

I have mostly given up hope that the FBI or police or amateurs or message boards will solve Zodiac or Tylenol.

Right now I am bored and frustrated with the Z case. My time outside of work and family and friends is more involved with researching and writing on other (non-crime) subjects.

In fact I just had an article accepted for publication in a magazine on sci-fi writer Philip K Dick and unusual experiences he and other writers and researchers have undergone. :)

I hope everyone has a great holiday.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:04 pm
by Zamantha
AK Wilks wrote:Very well then. If you wish to exclude TK because he does a + sign differently then that is your choice.

To me it does not make sense to disregard all the evidence above because of ONE trait like a 4 or a + .

But that is me. To each their own.

I have mostly given up hope that the FBI or police or amateurs or message boards will solve Zodiac or Tylenol.

Right now I am bored and frustrated with the Z case. My time outside of work and family and friends is more involved with researching and writing on other (non-crime) subjects.

In fact I just had an article accepted for publication in a magazine on sci-fi writer Philip K Dick and unusual experiences he and other writers and researchers have undergone. :)

I hope everyone has a great holiday.
kudos on your article! After its published, please share it with us! Happy for you!
Zincerely, Zam*

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:27 pm
by AK Wilks
Thanks Zam. I will.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 2:18 pm
by AK Wilks
Thanks to SEAGULL for passing along these documents to me. A lot of good printing from Ted here, so it is very well suited for handwriting comparisons to Zodiac. I will have all the pages posted later, and make some comparisons to Z handwriting. But right off from the start, a bird that flies near the ocean noticed that Kaczynski's description at top of page 5, sixth line down, of wasting time "hew and haw and fiddle around" is very similar to Zodiac's description of the police wasting time "fiddle and fart around " in LA Times letter!

So both Zodiac and Ted Kaczynski describe wasting time as "fiddle around". That is interesting in and of itself, but even more so when considered along with the dozens and dozens of other word and phrase matches, like "around in the snow", "contrary to what police say", "deplorable", "rather messy", etc, and the handwriting matches like three stroke "K" 's, five stroke "M" 's, etc. See them all starting here: viewtopic.php?f=102&t=250

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Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:26 pm
by AK Wilks
Thanks to MARCLEAN who did some amazing work showing the incredible similarity between Zodiac handwriting and Kaczynski handwriting.

Marclean wrote:OK !!! Mr. Ak Willks !!! ;)
I'm looking at various correspondences the Unabomber (MF ), and I will try to "build" an entire letter from ZKMF to see what the outcome.
Marcelo


AK Wilks: Wow great idea, look forward to seeing it.

I resized your work so people can see all of it in one image.

The top part of the following image, the Zodiac letter and Kaczynski application comparison, was done by AweShucks. The new excellent work at the bottom, with the Zodiac car door, Zodiac and Kaczynski word comparisons, was done by Marclean.

Marclean: I did some "play" with paint, in fact the similarity in spelling [handwriting, word formation, spacing - AK Wilks] is giant.
It is one of the POI (my) favorite
Marcelo :)

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Marclean: Thanks Mr Ak . :)
Hello .
Started today, I had taken a few days to complete.
But, I was horrified with the beginning, leaving me with it and excited to continue.
I am using the following criteria:
1- Do not force letters that are more similar.
2-Use words or whole or partial to better reliability.

share this post an image link "draft", because in fact, it's worth it (in my opinion).

I repeat.
It is frightening resemblance, so I think it's worth me finish this
It is also frightening that do not have the authorities have done DNA testing with Kazinski.
Marcelo

"Base Letter" Una . : Image

"Zodiac Letter Image

"The construction Draft Z-Una"

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ps:I will take a few weeks, for three reasons.
Try to be precise, something about the Z I have done and lack of time.
But I will definitely finish this. ;)


Marclean: Hello. :D

I figured it would take longer, but I managed, after get the hang of doing this in a few hours.
It is not accurate, but I did the best I could.
below are links of the letters "matrix" Ted K. of which "took" the "stuff" to construct the similar letter to ZMF. (images below mentioned links)
happiness to all.
Marcelo ;)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/0812081unabomber1.gif
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/0812081unabomber2.gif
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/0812081unabomber3.gif

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Marclean: As always, I made this little game with the letters in "caps Lk" letters" TK.
(I had thought of that when I made the anagram, but only now had time)
I reiterate, the resemblance is giant with ZMF is huge.
Marcelo :)


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/0812081unabomber1.gif

Re: Kaczynski and Zodiac - Shared Words, Phrases and Handwri

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:50 pm
by Marclean
absolutely Mr AK Wilks ;) , I returned from vacation on the beach tanned by the sun and with ideas (most BS) If you allow me I will "produce" more material to this topic later this year.
I repeat, I am surprised of TK have not been thoroughly investigated in the case of ZK, I find it strange (it would be an agreement between TK and the prosecution of justice :?: ), well, I guess we'll never know.
happy New Year !!! :D

Marcelo