Re: Does Ted Kaczynski Have an Alibi For Zodiac Crimes?

Posted:
Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:35 pm
by onewhoknows
I personally find that TK is an interesting Zodiac suspect, partly due to the fact he was a known killer and because his handwriting is pretty
close to the Zodiac's. But unless you can prove he was physically in the Bay Area on the dates of the Zodiac murders, we cannot prove he committed these
crimes. Also, the intimacy of the Zodiac crimes seems to be unlike TK to me.
Re: Does Ted Kaczynski Have an Alibi For Zodiac Crimes?

Posted:
Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:24 pm
by AK Wilks
onewhoknows wrote:I personally find that TK is an interesting Zodiac suspect, partly due to the fact he was a known killer and because his handwriting is pretty
close to the Zodiac's. But unless you can prove he was physically in the Bay Area on the dates of the Zodiac murders, we cannot prove he committed these
crimes. Also, the intimacy of the Zodiac crimes seems to be unlike TK to me.
Read from the first thread in this topic onwards. Ted was a prof at U Cal Berkeley for most of the Zodiac events and has no alibi for anyone of them.
Re: Does Ted Kaczynski Have an Alibi For Zodiac Crimes?

Posted:
Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:43 pm
by TheSingingDetective
I like some aspects about TK being Z except in a couple of troubling areas;
- As mentioned elsewhere, up close and personal doesn't seem the style of a long distance operator.
Whilst this is not a dealbreaker for me, it does not quite fit, to my reckoning.
He could've undergone an evolution, started up close & personal, then felt the heat was getting turned up too much, and to put more distance between him and
his victims, changed his persona and style. He was considering a sex change at one point (in '66 I think) so other game-changing shifts could've occurred also. Like the MK-ULTRA tests.
Indeed, photos of him around the Z era depict a fairly well groomed individual. Pics as the hermit Unabomber suggest a loss of pride in personal appearance. Albeit a few years between the two times.
Artists impressions of witnesses recollections and decriptions of Z's accoutrements come across as relatively clean/minimalist and meticulous from my
perception but maybe not clean enough even.
- Secondly, for the LHR/BRS/LB murders you really need a car. But not just a car, a 'killing machine' as Z calls it.
A phrase that to me, indicates a passion and affinity for motor vehicles. Not a Ted type of thing.
Now we know Ted hates technology and that has to inlcude the car, but when did his dislike of them become so intense he wouldn't drive one?
The oil crisis of the 70's would've potentially fueled his fire at least.
It's been said that he borrowed his brother's and parents cars before, but I wonder when that stopped and how long each time.
Although, in a possibly 'clewish' type way, a Z letter did taunt something like 'I don't look like my normal self when I'm doing my thing'.
Essentially, all bets are off. So a car not fitting TK's anti-technology thing may not have mattered.
He took buses a lot more later. Unless his mechanical hatred hadn't developed to that extent back then, how'd he justify to himself using a car?
Or using the technologically developed bomb parts, for that matter.
Not to mention, an implied crux of this thread, that we have to find that he was actually in California on the dates in question and at or near these murder scenes.
I do find it interesting that if you look at his life in the late 60's, you've got an incredibly gifted young man, IQ in a rare stratosphere, skips grades, early college entry, university professor in young 20's, career ahead of him, could've been up there with Einstein or Hawking from some things you read, then in some time of '69 is out of a job and starts drifting. Did something happen or he get seen? Or was society just becoming too ugly for him to integrate into? And who knows what the MK-ULTRA tests may have done to his mind. Even if not to become the Zodiac then certainly as the Unabomber.
Re: Does Ted Kaczynski Have an Alibi For Zodiac Crimes?

Posted:
Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:04 pm
by AK Wilks
Remember Ted used a typewriter and built bombs. His sense of anti-technology was mainly against computers and genetic engineering and the modern industrial system.
Ted owned and used cars. He owned a 1950's American pick up truck. He also owned a white 1970's Pontiac LeMans. He also borrowed cars from his brother.
Your questions about his being in CA during the Z crimes are answered in the first page of this thread. Basically he was a prof at U Cal Berkeley during the key period and no evidence places him outside CA during confirmed Z crimes or mailings.
Re: Does Ted Kaczynski Have an Alibi For Zodiac Crimes?

Posted:
Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:39 am
by vasa croe
Wasn't sure if this particular interview had come up in your searches for alibis, but it lends to the thought that TK did NOT leave California and DID stick around to search for a wilderness home.
His exact quote from this is:
I spent
two years teaching at the University of California in order to
save some money, then I resigned my position and went to look
for a place to live in the forest.
It is from his letter to a Turkish anarchist
http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-letter-to-a-turkish-anarchist.lt.pdf
Re: Does Ted Kaczynski Have an Alibi For Zodiac Crimes?

Posted:
Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:27 pm
by AK Wilks
vasa croe wrote:Wasn't sure if this particular interview had come up in your searches for alibis, but it lends to the thought that TK did NOT leave California and DID stick around to search for a wilderness home.
His exact quote from this is:
I spent
two years teaching at the University of California in order to
save some money, then I resigned my position and went to look
for a place to live in the forest.
It is from his letter to a Turkish anarchist
http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-letter-to-a-turkish-anarchist.lt.pdf
Correct. That verifies what he told the government psychiatrist.
Re: Does Ted Kaczynski Have an Alibi For Zodiac Crimes?

Posted:
Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:03 pm
by AK Wilks
Bumping for recent interest and discussion. And in a likely futile attempt to correct the persistent misinformation that Ted was out of state on several Z killing and mailing dates.

Start on page 1 of this thread, read and be enlightened.