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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:12 am
by snooter
good stuff from DJ..gives insite into the mind of a morbid sadistic killer..not sure what is Z related here but good stuff none the less..

Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:02 pm
by AK Wilks
Yes Darla Jones has done some terrific research and I appreciate all her posts here! Prompted by a very good discussion/debate on Ted K motivations vs. Zodiac motivations with great participation by snooter, masootz, norse, valleylife and others. And discussion about the hood found in Ted's cabin. Wanted to post some of the evidence and ideas here. Please join in with comments, criticisms or questions.

Unfortunately I think a lot of people don't "feel" like Ted is Z, in part because they think Ted was motivated primarily by politics and environmentalism. He was not. He records his urge to kill came from alienation, sexual frustration and a failed bid for a sex change operation in 1966, as I detail elsewhere. He records he will really kill the people he hates, and he states that he hates LOVE MAKING COUPLES, PROMISCUOUS WOMEN & ROWDY COLLEGE STUDENTS. Can it get more Zodiac like than that?

For others I think they want Z to be an unknown and the case to be solved in some dramatic way. Ted already being known and locked up is for most very anti-climatic.

Yes Snooter Ted is the only known serial killer, bomb designer, code creator who had a hand made hood in his cabin. To me incredible evidence that has not got enough attention. It frustrates me that a black flat top hood with rectangular eye slits, all like the Zodiac hood, was found in Ted K's cabin, and yet most of the larger Z community does not seem to care. Most people don't like Ted as Z. OK I accept it. I think it is wrong but all I can do is present the evidence. If most people ignore it, so be it. If it is not the dramatic solution people want, oh well. There is more to life and I am now finding much more success writing in non-crime areas, so I sorta feel like I am banging my head against the wall. And frustrated that they have Ted in custody yet we still don't know if they have taken DNA as allowed and required by law! I do appreciate all those who have participated in the Ted threads! be it constructive criticisms, good questions, comments, posting evidence, doing research, or just giving an opinion.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:51 pm
by bmichelle
I do want to start this off by saying I consider all the poi's as a possible zodiac first. But Ted K. Is my second poi of choice for all the logical reasons pointed out in AK Wilks posts.

This may sound ridulous- but I have traveled in the area of Ted K. I found the weather to be insanely cold with blistering winds.I had to keep a hooded hat on during that whole trip. Could he have not just created the hood for protection against the elements. He did not appear to spend much money on frivolous items. Maybe he just made the hood out of nenecessity.

Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:00 pm
by AK Wilks
Thanks! As for hunting it is possible but I really don't think so. He had regular ski masks for protection from the cold. The black hood looks like light material so no cold protection. And being black it would be the worst color possible for hunting in the snow!

Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:00 pm
by AK Wilks
Inspired by some great research done by Darla Jones on possible connections the occult Process Church and Norse Runes may have had on Zodiac (see here viewtopic.php?f=96&t=2202 , please read and comment there on those topics generally), I note the following.

Also it seemed Zodiac had some interest and knowledge in Norse. He wrote the letter mentioning SLA means kill in Norse, in reference to the terrorist group SLA. He apparently used Norse Rune symbols on the Halloween letter (though they could mean something else too) and the Zodiac symbol of a cross in a circle is also a Norse symbol (and other types of symbols as well). Zodiac also mentioned that he used a German gun, a Luger, which was the gun of Nazi officers. I also think frequent Zodiac allusions to water, trees and nature may symbolize Nordic beliefs. In Norse culture the Yggdrasil Tree, or World Tree, was selected as a large and powerful tree by water. It was a place for community gatherings, weddings, tribal meetings of the village leaders and other official functions. It was a place for holding court, and even carrying executions of those found guilty. The Yggdrasil symbol, aka the Algiz Rune, stand for World Tree, and its 3 roots, 6 guardians and 9 branches. It has a beautiful meaning of the 9 worlds of Norse mythology and respect for nature. But because of its other function it was also known as "tree of terror; gallows". Death could be by hanging, or sword. The Rune for the Yggdrasil is called Algiz, and it is the terminal letter in most runic alphabets. In some cases the terminal letter is X, more often the last letter is Z, as seen in this chart. Ted K had a book of Norse myths, the prose Edda, in his cabin. He also spraypainted the Yggdrasil Symbol/Algiz Rune, which also means Z, at the campus of a target.

This is the Futhark Runic Alphabet.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:27 pm
by Darla Jones
Darla Jones wrote:I find this picture fascinating. He looks older and he is very cleaned up and has his shirt tucked in and pants rolled up (50's style) and tennis shoes on. When was this taken? Why was it taken?

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I have a new guess as to what this picture is for. I think it is interesting to think about. Why else would he be taking a high quality studio picture? This is just my opinion.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:59 pm
by Darla Jones
Darla Jones wrote:
Darla Jones wrote:I find this picture fascinating. He looks older and he is very cleaned up and has his shirt tucked in and pants rolled up (50's style) and tennis shoes on. When was this taken? Why was it taken?

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I have a new guess as to what this picture is for. I think it is interesting to think about. Why else would he be taking a high quality studio picture? This is just my opinion.

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Also, if you look at the bottom of the picture, the wall is directly behind Ted, like in the Wyllie photo.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:26 pm
by AK Wilks
Ted is apparently standing in front of a standard portrait studio wall that has a rear screen. So is Wylie. It used to be department stores had photography sections were you could get your picture taken, kids pictures taken, etc.

I don't think Ted would have joined the Process. He was painfully shy and a social recluse. He never joined anything in his life. The Process is an interesting group. They are an occult group and a cult. They professed a sort of unity of opposites, citing belief and worship of Jehovah and Lucifer, as well as Christ and Satan. They seem to fit into the wild fringes of the 1960's west coast counter culture. Several of the magazines they published at the time focus on themes and images of sex, death, murder, ritualism and symbolism. Religion is a constant focus, the unity of opposites I mentioned, Christ and Satan.

None of this is stuff that Ted, as far as we know, was interested in. Ted was not religious. He avoided people in general and groups in particular. This is why after two years earning money as a professor at Berkeley he bought a cabin in the middle of the wilderness in Montana. If Ted had joined the Process, or any group, we would likely know about it from his brother, peers, witnesses, records, etc. Ted hated hippies, drugs and the counter culture movement. He believed in individualist primitivist anarchism. He loved living in the wilderness and hunting animals. I don't see anything in the Process that would appeal to him, other than Ted had interest in Norse myths, and some aspects of Norse show up in the Process. But everything else they believed he would have had no interest in or even hated. He did not join groups. Even with the radical environmental group "Earth First!", Ted went to a few meetings but never joined. And that was a group he was mostly in agreement with, until in his mind Judi Bari "emasculated" it by turning it from violent actions to peaceful protest. But even when he was in agreement with them he did not join.

Yes Ted is dressed in black in the picture, though they appear to be ordinary clothes, not robes or a uniform. We don't why Ted had this portrait studio picture taken. That is a mystery. There were some other pictures in his cabin stuff, and we know he had a picture taken for an Illinois gun permit and for a State Department passport. I just don't know what these pictures were for. His brother mentioned once that Ted told him that he was thinking about joining some kind of personals section dating club, in an effort to overcome his shyness, loneliness and self described "acute sexual starvation". It is not clear if he ever went through with it and it seems he did not go on any dates. But maybe when he was thinking about doing it he got these pictures done. Maybe they were for a U Cal Berkeley ID or some other kind of ID. Maybe they were to be part of a ruse to get a false ID of some kind. Or for some other purpose we just don't know.

You and all interested people should read some of the books about Ted. Robert Graysmith actually wrote a pretty good biography of Ted called "Unabomber: A desire to Kill". His neighbor wrote a book about his Montana life called "Unabomber: The Secret Life of Ted Kaczynski", and there is another book about his Harvard years. Also Doug Oswell has a ton of info on Ted at his site www.unazod.com and in his excellent book you can order at the site or at Amazon.

Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:04 am
by Darla Jones
This is an excellent article about Ted Kaczynski's state of mind as well.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... er/378239/

Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:31 pm
by Norse
AK Wilks wrote:
I don't think Ted would have joined the Process.


Based on what we know about him, this seems like a safe assumption.

To put it bluntly, I think Kaczynski would have found the Process laughable on all sorts of levels.