Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

[AK Wilks]

Norse it is a fair point but also consider these facts. Ted in 1969 was 160 pounds and 27 years old. Mageau first said his attacker was 160 pounds and so did Johns. Fouke said 180-200 pounds but later said the 250 pound Allen was 100 pounds too heavy. The girls at LB also rejected Allen as too heavy and said the man they saw was "normal".

Also Ted had a disguise method designed to make himself look heavier. He wore multiple shirts and stuffed a towel underneath them, making him look a good 30-50 pounds heavier than he was in reality. Maybe this is what Hartnell noticed when he said that the attacker seemed bulky but that this may have been because his jacket seemed "puffed out". Ted also put gum under his lips and wax in his nostrils.

[Norse]

Yep - the disguise method you mention is precisely the sort of thing I have in mind. And which I can't let go of as a possibility.

Not least because I keep entertaining the notion that Z, whoever he was, availed himself of certain techniques which would have been known at the time and described in published books. Including ways to disguise both your appearance and your handwriting.

BH's description of baggy or unshapely attire has always intrigued me for this very reason.

But then there's poor Mike - who observed his attacker wearing nothing but a t-shirt as per his statement. What are we to make of that?

[Darla Jones]

Here is a close up of the back of the coin.
NH 1760
CONSUL 1799
? 1804

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"Napoleon took power in a coup d'état in 1799 and installed himself as First Consul. In 1804 he made himself emperor of the French people. He fought a series of wars—the Napoleonic Wars—that involved complex ever-changing coalitions for and against him. After a streak of victories, France secured a dominant position in continental Europe, and Napoleon maintained the French sphere of influence through the formation of extensive alliances and the elevation of friends and family members to rule other European countries as French vassal states.

[Norse]

NH 1760
CONSUL 1799
? 1804

I believe it is:

NE 1769 (as in nee - born - in that year) and EMPEREUR 1804 (when he made himself emperor *).

Then follows a list of locations/cities (important to his life, career and the Napoleonic Wars) before: CODE CIVIL 1804 (the Napoleonic Code), ABDICATION 1814 (after the war was lost), ILE D' ELBE 1815 (the island of Elba, where Napoleon was placed in exile), ST HELENE (Saint Helena, where he spent the rest of his exile and life), MORT EN 1821 (died in 1821).

For those who might be interested.

I'm very interested in Napoleon myself - a very fascinating character. I guess old Ted K concurred.

* When Beethoven learned that Napoleon (whom he admired up till that point) had allowed himself to be named emperor, he - Beethoven - allegedly shrugged and said: Ah, well - then he too is a mere human. As in, he ain't that great after all.

[Darla Jones]

Here is some more of the stuff from the auction.

http://www.e-flux.com/announcements/james-benning/

http://www.museum-joanneum.at/en/kunsth ... -benning-2

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[Darla Jones]

Auction of Unabomber mementos net $175K so far

By PAUL ELIAS, The Associated Press
Posted June 02, 2011, at 10:17 p.m.
The hoodie and sunglasses used by Ted Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber, are displayed as Kaczynski's personal items are auctioned off online with proceeds to benefit the victims' families in Atlanta. The online auction of Unabomber memorabilia ends today with bidders vying for the most popular items: hoodie, sunglasses and hand-written manifesto.
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The hoodie and sunglasses used by Ted Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber, are displayed as Kaczynski's personal items are auctioned off online with proceeds to benefit the victims' families in Atlanta. The online auction of Unabomber memorabilia ends today with bidders vying for the most popular items: hoodie, sunglasses and hand-written manifesto.
Photos of Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, are displayed along with some of his books, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, in Atlanta. Kaczynski 's personal items such as handwritten letters, typewriters, tools, clothing and several hundred books are being auctioned off online with the proceeds benefiting his victims' families.
AP | David Goldman
Photos of Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, are displayed along with some of his books, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, in Atlanta. Kaczynski 's personal items such as handwritten letters, typewriters, tools, clothing and several hundred books are being auctioned off online with the proceeds benefiting his victims' families.
Items being sold that were owned by Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, for an online auction with proceeds to benefit the victims' families in Atlanta. The online auction of Unabomber memorabilia ends today with bidders vying for the most popular items: hoodie, sunglasses and hand-written manifesto.
AP | US Marshals Public Affairs Office
Items being sold that were owned by Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, for an online auction with proceeds to benefit the victims' families in Atlanta. The online auction of Unabomber memorabilia ends today with bidders vying for the most popular items: hoodie, sunglasses and hand-written manifesto.
SAN FRANCISCO — The very technology that the Unabomber railed against during his murderous spree was used Thursday to help some of his victims.

An unusual online auction of Ted Kaczynski’s personal items has so far garnered about $175,000 for his victims and their family members. They want the so-called Unabomber to pay for the 16 explosions he set off that killed three and injured 23 others across the country.

Kaczynski’s personal journals fetched $40,676; the iconic hooded sweatshirt and sunglasses depicted in police sketch artist renderings accounted for $20,025; and his handwritten “manifesto” sold for $20,053. Other popular items included $22,003 for the Smith Corona typewriter seized from the cabin and $17,780 for his autobiography.

The auction was a culmination of a seven-year legal battle designed to block Kaczynski from regaining ownership of the property seized from his remote Montana cabin during a 1996 raid.

Kaczynski, representing himself in court, demanded return of the property so he could donate it to the University of Michigan, his alma mater. But because Kaczynski was ordered to pay his victims $15 million, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ordered the property auctioned.

“He wanted his stuff back, and this way he doesn’t get it back,” said Susan Mosser, whose advertising executive husband Thomas was killed by a parcel bomb in 1994. “He also hasn’t paid a cent of restitution.”

Mosser said she hoped that some of the 40,000 pages of documents would end up in academia.

John Hickey, a consignment director at Dallas-based Heritage Auctions, said that several types of collectors could be expected to compete for the items.

“People who deal in historical events and lean toward the bad guys will be interested in this stuff,” said Hickey, whose company auctioned off a poem written by Lee Harvey Oswald and the infamous wooden gun John Dillinger used to break out of prison. Kaczynski “has also crossed over into pop culture and will attract those collectors.”

In all, collectors snatched up 58 items seized during the raid of Kaczynski’s remote Montana cabin in 1996. All the bidders remained anonymous.

Some victims and others opposed the auction as unseemly. They feared the publicity surrounding the event would add to Kaczynski’s renown at a time when they want him to languish quietly in the so-called supermax federal prison in Florence, Colo.

There was concern that some of the writings contained Kaczynski’s gloating over the bombings between 1978 and 1995. He led authorities on the nation’s longest, costliest manhunt before his brother tipped off authorities in 1996.

FBI agents painstakingly censored all references to Kazcynzki’s victims in the 40,000 pages of documents and other items seized from the cabin and put up for sale.

“This is really the best option,” said Jeffrey Dion, director of the National Center for Victims of Crime. “The proceeds go directly to the victims.”

[Darla Jones]

http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2011 ... it-victims

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[Mr lowe]

Mostly he used a closed 4 .. He ain't the "Z"

[vasa croe]

Mostly he used a closed 4 .. He ain't the "Z"

Big difference between "mostly" and "always". Z mostly killed couples, so does that make Stein not really a victim? It is well known that Z's writing styles changed over the letters he wrote, so what would keep him from changing his "4" up. Even in the example given above, there are open and closed 4's.

[Darla Jones]

I find this picture fascinating. He looks older and he is very cleaned up and has his shirt tucked in and pants rolled up (50's style) and tennis shoes on. When was this taken? Why was it taken?

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