Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby doranchak » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:00 pm

I asked Despot if he scored any of the journals or code books. He said he missed them by accident, and was angry because they sold for not much money.

I wish whoever bought them would scan them and make them available. It'd be interesting to see how his code works.
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:19 pm

doranchak wrote:I asked Despot if he scored any of the journals or code books. He said he missed them by accident, and was angry because they sold for not much money.

I wish whoever bought them would scan them and make them available. It'd be interesting to see how his code works.


Could you ask Despot if he could photograph the bottom of the shoes and measure the length of the shoe in inches? Also, could he photograph the undermask from the front. I'd like to know if the seam was down the front.
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby doranchak » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:21 pm

I'll let you contact him here: https://twitter.com/despotroast/
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:13 pm

doranchak wrote:I'll let you contact him here: https://twitter.com/despotroast/


Thanks!
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:38 am

http://thebookshopper.typepad.com/the_b ... art-2.html

* Books found in Kaczynski's cabin

Joseph Conrad, The Secret Agent, 1907 *
James Fenimore Cooper, The Deerslayer, 1823 *
Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities, 1859 *
Fyodor Dostoevski, Brothers Karamazov, 1878 *
Thomas Hardy, Far from the Madding Crowd, 1874 *
Arthur Koestler, Darkness at Noon, 1941 *
Richard Lattimore, The Revelation of John, 1962 **
W. Somerset Maugham, Razor's Edge, 1944 *
Alexandra Orme, Comes the Comrade!, 1949 *
George Orwell, 1984, 1949 *
Horacio Quiroga, The Decapitated Chicken and Other Stories, 1935 *
William Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice, 1596 *
John Steinbeck, Of Mice and Men, 1937 *
Leo Tolstoy, The Cossacks and The Raid, 1862 *
Don Armando Palacio Valdes, Maximina, 1888 *

Non-Fiction:
Allan R. Buss, Individual Differences: Traits and Factors, 1976 *
FC, Industrial Society & Its Future, 1995 *
Robert V. Daniels, Red October, The Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, 1967 **
L. Sprague De Camp, Ancient Engineers, 1960 *
Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society, 1964 *
H.J. Eysenck, Sense and Nonsense in Psychology, 1957 *
George W. Scotter & Halle Flygare, Wildflowers of the Canadian Rockies, 1986 **
Food and Nutrition Board, Recommended Dietary Allowances, 1974 *
Euell Gibbons, Handbook of Edible Wild Plants, 1979 *
Richard Gombin, The Radical Tradition, 1978*
Paul Goodman, Growing Up Absurd: Problems of Youth in the Organized System, 1956 *
Robert Gurr, Violence in America, Vol I & II, 1979, 1989 *
Osborne Russell & Aubrey L. Haines, Journal of a Trapper, 1965 *
Eric Hoffer, The True Believer, 1951 *
Henry Jacobwitz, Electronics Made Simple, 1958 *
Glen R. Johnson, Tracking Dog, 1975 *
Horace Kephart, Camping and Woodcraft, 1988 *
Irving Kohn, Meteorology for All, 1946 **
Tom McIver, Anti-Evolution: A Reader's Guide to Writings Before and After Darwin, 1992 **
Arthur P. Mendel, ed., Essential Works of Marxism, 1961 *
Jules Michelet, History of the French Revolution, 1967 *
Jean Baker Miller, Toward a New Psychology of Women, 1976 *
National Rifle Association, The Basics of Rifle Shooting, 1987 *
M.H.A. Newman, Elements of the Topology of Plane Sets of Points, 1964 *
Evan Hendricks, Trudy Hayden, and Jack D. Novik, Your Right to Privacy, 1980 *
Betty Owen, Typing for Beginners, 1976 *
Anthony Gooch and Angela Garcia de Pareded, Spanish-English/English-Spanish Dictionary, 1978 *
Lila Pargment, Beginner's Russian Reader, 1977 *
William H. Prescott, History of the Conquest of Mexico, 1843 *
David Riesman, Abundance for What?, 1964 *
Andrew Robinson, Lost Languages, 1957 *
J.W. Schultz, My Life as an Indian, 1935 *
Chandler S. Robbins, Bertel Brunn, Herbert S. Zim, & Arthur Singer, Field Guide to North American Birds, 1966 **
Albert Speer, Spandau: The Secret Diaries, 1976 *
Walter Starkie, Raggle-Taggle: Adventures with a Fiddle in Hungary, 1933 *
William Strunk, Jr., Elements of Style, 1959 *
Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi, 1883 *
United States Department of Justice, The Science of Fingerprints, 1973 *
William Whyte, The Organization Man, 1956 *
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby snooter » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:46 am

The Science of Fingerprints, 1973, National Rifle Association, The Basics of Rifle Shooting, 1987 and Typing for Beginners, 1976

and would feel a lot better about TK as Z if those books had been dated early 1960's...still he had that "hood"
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby AK Wilks » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:34 pm

Also a book on tracking dogs.

Keep in mind by 1996 Ted no doubt disposed of a lot of the books he had in the 1960's.

One other book he did have was a copy of the Prose Edda the main hook of Norse mythology. Zodiac referencingNorse langauge in the SLA letter and using Norse runes. Kaczynski also spraypainted a Norse rune symbol at the campus of a target.
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Talon » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:12 pm

Look at this photo closely. It appears he's wearing black horn rimmed glasses. Also, he standing next to a '66 Chevrolet Malibu which looks to be silver or possibly silver blue. ( Lake B sighting)

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby AK Wilks » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:00 am

Talon wrote:Look at this photo closely. It appears he's wearing black horn rimmed glasses. Also, he standing next to a '66 Chevrolet Malibu which looks to be silver or possibly silver blue. ( Lake B sighting)

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I never noticed that! I am away from my desktop computer maybe someone can do a photoshop blowup of the face and glasses if not I will do it tomorrow. His neighbor mentioned that Ted sometimes wore glasses he thought to protect his eyes from the elements but I have never seen a picture of a young Ted with black Z like glasses.
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Norse » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:35 pm

Heh - looks like he's wearing a mask to me - Zorro or Lone Ranger style.

I doubt much can be gleaned from simply resizing that particular image - I tried it just for kicks now and it's just pixels galore, so to speak. You'd need to apply some kind of editing voodoo to it in order to make it sharper, I think.

Anyway, the one thing which would strike any casual observer is how lean he is. There's no mistaking that guy for someone "beefy" or "husky".

It's the same card which can be played out against several of the prominent suspects (as proposed by various researchers) in the Z case, including Ted K, Bruce Davis and Mr X: If certain witness descriptions are to be credited at all it is evident that Z was not a lean, mean killing machine. He was a somewhat heavy guy, whether that means overweight, husky or beefy - as per the impression he left with those who observed him.

It's an important point, I think. Because regardless of what one thinks of the reliability of witnesses in general, the image of Z as a fairly big and bulky guy stems from several sources and has to be explained if we are to embrace a suspect who clearly was neither big nor bulky.

The latter isn't impossible at all - and I personally have never given up on the idea that Z purposely dressed (as part of his disguise) in a way which could be deceiving. But Mageau observed a Z who wore nothing but a T-shirt. And he claims that the man was beefy - he even goes into specifics regarding this, and what he relates, taken at face value, does not fit any suspect who was clearly either scrawny or lean.

That's just the way it is. If Mageau's description (not all the different things he told various people over the years, in various settings, but what he told the cops immediately after the crime was committed) is somewhat on the money, it's hard to explain away the - well - heaviness of the frame. The scrawny guy in the picture here, for instance, clearly does not fit that description - he's nowhere near. That has to be taken into consideration, unless we are to disregard the witness testimonies on record altogether. It needs explaining, like I said.
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