Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

[PinkPhantom]

Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin
Postby snooter » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:26 pm
how many "hoods" can we place with certainty with any other POI..i dunno but it (hood) just gives me the willy's

I agree Snooter. The masks are dead ringers for the descriptions of the zodiac/EAR-ONS hoods... What are the odds of that? I tend to agree with AK that even if Ted did commit the Zodiac or EAR/ONS crimes he likely would not admit to them bc he doesn't want to be seen as a serial killer, but an activist/revolutionary of sorts.

[AK Wilks]

Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin
Postby snooter » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:26 pm
how many "hoods" can we place with certainty with any other POI..i dunno but it (hood) just gives me the willy's

I agree Snooter. The masks are dead ringers for the descriptions of the zodiac/EAR-ONS hoods... What are the odds of that? I tend to agree with AK that even if Ted did commit the Zodiac or EAR/ONS crimes he likely would not admit to them bc he doesn't want to be seen as a serial killer, but an activist/revolutionary of sorts.

Yes snooter, pink phantom and others, to me the things found in Ted's cabin, most of all the hand made black hoods with vertical eye slits, the elaborate codes, plus the shared Zodiac/TK traits of handwriting, signing their name as crossed lines inside a circle, leaving crossed lines inside a circle at a crime scene, words, phrases and writing to newspapers demanding to be on the front page or people die, it's an overwhelmingly strong case for TK as a serious Z suspect, and yet most people don't seem to care, and I am sick of trying to get people to care. I pretty much give up. It starts to seem pointless.

Unfortunately I think a lot of people don't "feel" like Ted is Z, in part because they think Ted was motivated primarily by politics and environmentalism. He was not. He records his urge to kill came from alienation, sexual frustration and a failed bid for a sex change operation in 1966, as I detail elsewhere. He records he will really kill the people he hates, and he states that he hates LOVE MAKING COUPLES, PROMISCUOUS WOMEN & ROWDY COLLEGE STUDENTS. Can it get more Zodiac like than that?

For others I think they want Z to be an unknown and the case to be solved in some dramatic way. Ted already being known and locked up is for most very anti-climatic.

Yes Snooter Ted is the only known serial killer, bomb designer, code creator who had a hand made hood in his cabin. To me incredible evidence that has not got enough attention. It frustrates me that a black flat top hood with rectangular eye slits, all like the Zodiac hood, was found in Ted K's cabin, and yet most of the larger Z community does not seem to care. Most people don't like Ted as Z. OK I accept it. I think it is wrong but all I can do is present the evidence. If most people ignore it, so be it. If it is not the dramatic solution people want, oh well. There is more to life and I am now finding much more success writing in non-crime areas, so I sorta feel like I am banging my head against the wall. And frustrated that they have Ted in custody yet we still don't know if they have taken DNA as allowed and required by law! I do appreciate all those who have participated in the Ted threads! be it constructive criticisms, good questions, comments, posting evidence, doing research, or just giving an opinion.




Zodiac often but not always did a 3 stroke "k", Kaczynski often but not always did a 3 stroke "k". Zodiac often did a 5 stroke "m", same as Ted. Other matches include the checkmark "r", short caps and bottom on the capital "I" and frequent cursive looped back on the "d". Look at Ted's "k" in "Park" - a clear 3 stroke. Morrill said few people in the general population do 3 stroke "k" or 5 stroke "m" so those would be things he would look for. I also blew up the Ted letter to the boy.

GRAPHICS AND RESEARCH BY AK WILKS AND AWESHUCKS - A HANDWRITING COMPARISON - ZODIAC AND KACZYNSKI





From Doug Oswell, the Application Bio by Kaczynski to the U Cal Berkeley, December 1966.

The writing looks particularly Zodiac like to me, compare it to the Belli letter.




A COMPARISON OF SHARED WORD USAGE, PHRASES AND STYLES BY THE ZODIAC AND KACZYNSKI (MOSTLY BY DOUG OSWELL AND A FEW BY AK WILKS)

Z = Zodiac K = Kaczynski/Unabomber

Z = I hope you enjoy your selves when I have my Blast. Jolly Roger Card.

K = For these reasons, I want to get my revenge in one big blast. GX18-2003F, p. 11.


Z = At the moment the children are safe from the bomb because it is so massive to dig in & the triger mech requires much work to get it adjusted just right. Belli Letter, 1969.

K = Its no fun having to spend all your evenings and weekends preparing dangerous mixtures, filing trigger mechanisms out of scraps of metal .... New York Times Letter, 1995.


Z = I gave the cops som bussy work to do to keep them happy. Seven-Page Letter, 1969.

K = This seems to us a thoroughly contemptible way for the human race to end up, and we doubt that many people would find fulfilling lives in such pointless busy-work. Unabomber Manifesto, 1995.


Z = This is the murderer of the 2 teenagers last Christmass at Lake Herman & the girl on the 4th of July near the golf course in Vallejo. To prove I killed them I shall state some facts which only I & the police know. Three-Part Cipher, 1969.

K = To prove that we are the ones who planted the bomb at U. Of Cal. last May we will mention a few details that could be known only to us and the FBI who investigated the incident. S.F. Examiner Letter, 1985.


Z = The police shall never catch me, because I have been too clever for them. Seven-Page letter, 1969.

K = And it doesn't appear that the FBI is going to catch us any time soon. New York Times letter, 1995.


Z = 2 cops pulled a goof. Seven-Page letter, 1969.

K = The FBI is a joke. New York Times letter, 1995.


Z = As of yet I have left no fingerprints behind me contrary to what the police say. Seven-Page Letter, 1969.

K = Contrary to what the FBI has suggested, our bombing at the California Forestry Association was in no way inspired by the Oklahoma City bombing. New York Times Letter, 1995.


Z = This is the murderer of the 2 teenagers last Christmass ... July 31, 1969 Letter (Chronicle).
This is the Zodiac speaking. Numerous correspondences, 1969 through 1971.

K = This is a message from the terrorist group FC. New York Times Letter, April 24, 1995.
This is a message from FC. Tom Tyler Letter, June 30, 1995.


Z = I promised to punish them if they did not comply, by anilating a full School Buss. But now school is out for the summer, so I punished them in another way. Mt. Diablo Letter, 1970.

K = The people who are pushing all this growth and progress garbage deserve to be severely punished. New York Times Letter, 1995.


Z = By the way it could be rather messy if you try to bluff me. Seven-Page Letter, 1969.

K = A special case of Theorem (b) was proved (in effect) in [6, proof of Theorem 6] by means of a rather messy lemma. T.J. Kaczynski. Boundary Functions and Sets of Curvilinear Convergence for Continuous Functions. Transactions of the American Mathematical Society, Vol. 141 (Jul., 1969), 107-125, p. 124.

Z = [Called a violent movie] "deplorable".

K = [Called OKC bombing] "deplorable".

The ones above are some that I considered most compelling and a few of my own. The entire list and analysis by Doug Oswell is excellent and can be seen here:

http://www.unazod.com/style.html

I do think the shared word usage of Kaczynski and Zodiac is remarkable, and unlike what we see in any other Z suspect.

LINDA: In addition to yours above, some others that I find quite compelling from Doug's list are:

1. Both use the word "So" to begin several of their thoughts.
2. Both use the phrase "By the Way" to begin several of their thoughts.
3. Use of "is is" in sentences.
4. Both use the words "To prove" at the beginning of sentences followed by information
they felt provided proof of authenticity
5. Both draw a full line across the page to separate thoughts.

[Zamantha]

Have to say, AK & Doug presented a good case. A lot of simularities.
Zam*

[AK Wilks]

Have to say, AK & Doug presented a good case. A lot of simularities.
Zam*

Thanks. And thanks to the many folks who have shown an interest in the possible TK/Z connection.

[doranchak]

I agree -- AK, you have presented a lot of interesting information.

Do you have a timeline somewhere? I made one for Ross Sullivan because I wanted a quick reference of well-sourced material: http://zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/ind ... s_Sullivan

A similar reference for Kaczynski vs Zodiac would be helpful in visualizing how Kaczynski might be ruled in or out as a suspect. And it's also a nice way to keep all the sources organized.

[AK Wilks]

That is a very good idea! And I think it might be very helpful to people. When I get a little time I will work on that, and open it up so others may contribute items, facts, suggestions or questions.

[doranchak]

The problem with the Ross Sullivan info was that it was scattered all over the place (buried in numerous threads), so that motivated me to organize it all in one place. I also tried to limit it to just the facts and their sources.

A Kaczynski timeline would be handy!

[glurk]

If I might throw in a comment here, just a Zodiac timeline, a complete one, would be awesome. Just with the major events, and also a way to include / exclude suspects, etc. Way too much for me to handle, but I think there are some "timeline-making" programs out there.

It would be a great resource, IMO.

-glurk

[doranchak]

I agree, glurk. It'd be nice to tag all the Z timeline entries with categories that you can filter by.

I've been wanting to take on that project, since I have loads of timeline-related material already in Evernote. But time is the fire in which we burn!

[glurk]

Please take a look at timeglider.com!

That looks like a great way to do it. You can zoom in and out, etc.

-glurk