Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:54 pm

I'm starting to think that The Process would have been very appealing to Kaczynski. I got a copy of the Mindbender issue of the Process Church. I think it's from 1970; when they were in England again. This article is very interesting because it sounds like the opening parts of the Unabomber Manifesto. I googled the author, and he's a Neo-Nazish British Politician.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby AK Wilks » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:37 pm

Yes Ted would have agreed with that one article. But nothing in his life that we know of shows interest in religion, the occult, the sixties counter culture. Even if there was interest he would not join any group IMO. He strongly agreed with everything the radical environmental group "Earth First! " stood for in their militant period. He even went to a few meetings, sent them an article for their magazine and set up secret code messages to them in the classified ads (you found those! Thanks). But he never joined them. He never joined any group. He was the classic lone wolf.

You should read the very good Robert Graysmith book "Unabomber:A Desire To Kill" and/or the book on his Harvard years including the CIA experiments by Alston Chase called "A Mind For Murder". I know you have a serious interest in Ted as a Z suspect and a serious interest in possible occult groups as Z suspects. One of these theories could be right but probably not both. Only possible exception IMO is Arlis Perry murder which one trail leads to occult and one trail leads to anti - behavioral scientist killer living near N Dakota. Keep in mind evidence shows Ted would do attacks leaving fake clues to point blame at other people and groups - Iranian Students Assoc, anti lawyer groups, racist groups, Christian fundamentalists, Berkeley professors Wu and R.V.
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:30 am

Here is a close up of that photo. He looks fairly young.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Quicktrader » Fri May 15, 2015 5:29 am

Darla Jones wrote:Here is a close up of that photo. He looks fairly young.

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...and not having any round face at all..

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:49 am

This photo is from the auction. I found it on google image search. It looks to be the actual packaging of the recovered bomb. I'm not sure if the bomb is a recreation or the actual one found. The letter reads:

New York Times:
This is a message from FC
If the enclosed manuscript is published feasibly printed and receives wide public exposure, we will permanently desist from terrorism in __ with the agreement that we proposed in our last letter to you.
In that letter we stated that whoever agreed to publish the manuscript was to have exclusive rights to it for six months, after which the material was to become public property. We are willing to be flexible about the six month limit. The reason we offered exclusive rights (temporarily) was to provide an incentive for publication of the manuscript. Presumably, whoever published it would hope to profit by doing so. We assume that the six month limit should be ample if the material is published in a periodical, but if it is published in book form ___ __ don’t know how long the publisher would need exclusive rights in order to have a reasonable expectation of making a profit. So if the New York Times arranges for publication in book form, we leave the period of exclusive rights to your discretion. But it should be no longer than necessary and in any case must not exceed one year, unless you publish in the Times as good and convincing reasons for making it longer than that. We don’t want our material to remain locked up by a copyright, especially if it is published in the form of a book and the book doesn’t sell.
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Contrary to what the FBI has suggested, our bombing at the California Forestry Association was in no way inspired by the Oklahoma City bombing. We strongly deplore the kind of indiscriminate slaughter that occurred in the Oklahoma City event. We have no regret about the fact that our bomb blew up the “wrong” man, Gilbert Murray, instead of William M. Dennison, to whom it was addressed. Though Murray did not have Dennison’s inflammatory style he was pursuing the same goals, and he probably pursuing them more effectively because of the very fact that he was not inflammatory.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:12 am

I noticed that the packaging already has postage cancellation mark on it. This must be from a bomb that was sent to someone.
It's been blurred so I can't make out the name on the postage.
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:46 am

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/a ... er/279523/

"Steve Soboroff is a California businessman, with a career that includes running for mayor of Los Angeles, a brief stint as vice chairman of the L.A. Dodgers and a current appointment as one of the LAPD’s police commissioners. He is also the foremost collector of famous folks' typewriters, with a cache that spans the famous – John Lennon and Joe DiMaggio – to the infamous: He owns one of two units taken by the FBI from Ted Kaczynski’s Montana cabin. I met Soboroff in Boston, where a curated selection of his typewriters is being displayed at Northeastern University. The collection routinely tours, and people can type on their favorite luminary’s machine for a fee that goes towards a fund for journalism scholarships. I brought my camera; the images included here were shot, in keeping with the analog theme, on Impossible Project film for old Polaroid Cameras.
Soboroff and I are standing in front of a slightly haggard yet modern-looking model, and it’s conspicuously missing its cover. Soboroff is telling me about a letter exchange he’d had with the previous owner, the aforementioned Unabomber. The letter I wrote to him was, ‘Where is the cover to the typewriter?’ Now, I know. He made a bomb out of it.” Soboroff speaks loudly, gesturing to the small crowd of students who form a rapt audience. “I wrote it to him on this typewriter, I wanted to trigger him to respond to me …. So he wrote to me, it says, ‘I don’t return any letters, but today I received a letter that may make me change my mind. If you are who I think you are, then of course I’ll do my best to answer.’ So I thought, ‘well, huh. I ran for mayor of LA, maybe the guy knows who I am.’ My son said, ‘Dad, that’s not what he’s thinking. He’s thinking you’re your cousin."

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:08 am

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I think I remember reading that there was a third typewriter found. This must be it.

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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:52 am

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SUGGESTIONS FOR EARTH FIRST!ERS

From FC

Earth First! Wants t0 eliminate the industrial form of society. This is clearly a revolutionary goal. Yet it seems that many or most Earth First!ers still think and act like reformers, not like revolutionaries.

This is illustrated by Darryl Cherney’s response to the bombing in which we assassinated the president of the California Forestry Association. According to newspaper reports Cherney was upset by the bombing because he was afraid that there would be retaliatory attacks on Earth First!ers. Now we respect (with certain qualifications) the nonviolent principles of Earth First! (even though we don’t think it would be practical for everyone to abide by them) and if any Earth First!ers get beaten up in retaliation for our bombing we certainly sympathize with them. But Cherney’s reaction shows that his mentality is that of a reformer, not a revolutionary.
To a revolutionary, what is important is not the short-term goal of saving this or that bit of wilderness or securing some grudging tolerance from timer industry sympathizers. What is important is the long-term goal of weakening and destabilizing industrial society so that a revolution against it may become possible. From this point of xx view it is DESIRABLE that timber industry sympathizers should make physical attacks on Earth First!ers, because such behavior tends to increase the social stresses in industrial society and helps to turn people against the system.
It is important to distinguish between what the industrial system “wants” and what certain people who claim to represent the system may want or may do. By what the system “wants” we mean that which helps to assure the survival and growth of the industrial system. This corresponds approximately with what is desired by the most rational, self-restrained and “responsible” members of the system’s controlling elite. But people who believe in ways that are harmful to the system and thus serve as unwitting allies of those who want to overthrow the system.

Take police brutality as an example. The most rational and “responsible” members of the system’s elite are against police brutality. They want the police to use just enough force (and no more than just enough) to insure public order and obedience to the system’s rules, because they know that police brutality increases social stresses and tends to break down respect for the system. Bad cops (or timber industry goons) who beat people up regard themselves as pro-system and hate those who are against the system, but the behavior of such cops actually helps to undermine the system. Thus police brutality is not really part of the system, but is a kind of disease of the system.

Similarly, the irresponsible politicians who are currently repealing environmental laws may be acting as unwitting allies of revolutionaries. If their actions lead to a few more cases like Love Canal and the Exxon Valdez oil spill, they will be helping to destroy respect for the system. Morover the actions of these politicians help to…


APPENDIX
__ by Mira Goldberg that appeard in the EarthFirst! Jour
February 2, 1995) will help us to illustrate the leftist

__December 21, 1994 issue of Earth First!, David Orton
article, “Rethinking Environmental – First Nations Relat_
in which he criticized SOME “First Nations” (i.e. Indian)
collaborating in destructive economic exploitation of the
and some environmentalist for uncritically accepted as
…mands made by Indians. In her article, “Toward Alliances: A response to “Rethinking Environmental –First relationships.” Goldberg ansers Orton, and in doing so she .. typical examples of leftist thinking.

_ Shows the leftist trait of intense identification with victims that we )FC) mention in paragraphs 13, 299, 232 Of and coupled with this the trait of hypersensitivity that in paragraphs 11, 12. Orton’s article was reasonable and .. made it clear that he was criticizing only SOME Indians.. acting with environmentally destructive policies, and he .. the opinion that there were more “good” Indians than.. environmentalist” “Suck native “biocentrists” (he wrote) .. stronger minority within the mainstream movement are.” .. responds to Orton’s article as if it were a nasty Indians. She even implies that Orton’s thinking .. (last paragraph of her article). She seems to think for white people ever to criticize any Indians (tenth.. her article.)

Grudgingly admits that not all Indians are perfect – there collaborators” but then (in the eleventh to thirteenth .. of her article) she tries to find excuses for them and .. bad actions on the insufficiently subservient attitudes environmentalist. Compares paragraphs 12, 225 oe oue (FC’s)

For a leftist, Goldberg is fond of certain catch-words. 229 of FCs article ). In her brief article she uses capitalism once, “genocide” twice and XXXXXx (neo) colonialist” or “(neo-) colonialism” thirteen.. claims that “genocide (against Indians)” is currently and . This is absurd. The word “genocide” was originally describe the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. The reasonably be applied to some nineteenth century events in .. of the Indians by the white; for example. To cases in tribes were relocated through forced marches in which the was extremely high. But to apply the word “genocide” to .. of Indians by whites to compare it to the treat __ Jews by the Nazis, and that is ridiculous in the eyes of..”
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Re: Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

Postby Darla Jones » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:40 am

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Summer 1986 THE DOMBERS, “LITTLE OAKS”, OF POLAND

My Dear Sister,
It is so:
It is not so:
But I remember.
That’s not the way it was.
You’re imagining it.
You’re coloring it.
Memory.
Loaded with bias.
Can you trust it?

In my 70th year you have given me that final small push that I needed to write of what I know about our ancestry, our parents and our own youth so that my children, your children and grandchildren might know what blood, from their maternal side, flows through their veins. Some things that I heard our parents speak of may be pure romantic fantasy, a bit of wishful thinking: nevertheless, even myths have their place in a family chronicle just as The Bible. The odyssey , Beowulf, etc., etc. have an important place in the history of Western Civilization. Other pieces of information are facts and a matter of pride. Some things are shameful, tragic and even evid. You might not want to talk of the latter to your grandchildren at too young a age. Wait until they are grown and you’re sure they can handle of the less savory aspects of their great and great, great grandparents lives. Well, whatever the revelations. Dave will be happ y. this endeavor of mind. He has been after me for several years … a history of our past.

First, the romantic, perhaps the mythical aspects of o.. Of course, you know that Copernicus was a famous Polish accouring to our father (as told to Ben) his blood fows through __ veins. Since Copernicus had never married, and did not..



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Dear Wanda & Ted,
I can’t say I enjoyed reading the histories you sent – it was a very gut-wrenching experience reading through your graphic descriptions our wretched childhood. I read them once and put them aside to re-read again at a later time after I’ve had a chance to recover.

The only memories I have of Zanesville are that of a white house on a hill, sliding down the hill on my backside when it was muddy from Ted’s toboggan), and trying to follow you to school

My earliest memories of Chicago are going on a train with Pa from Chicago to Zanesville to see__ something about a house that burned down -- maybe I just dreamed that??

The next thing I remember is going to kindergarten in Chicago and just staying for one day because a boy came into the classroom, jumped on me and I was too frightened to return. Fantasy?
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