Items That Were Auctioned From Kaczynski Cabin

[snooter]

how many "hoods" can we place with certainty with any other POI..i dunno but it (hood) just gives me the willy's

[ophion1031]

how many "hoods" can we place with certainty with any other POI..i dunno but it (hood) just gives me the willy's

Exactly! Not just the hood, but the handwriting, the fact that he often wrote to the Chronicle, his codes/ciphers etc. I'm not sold on him murdering people in person, but he very well could have played a role in the crimes. Honestly, I have always thought Kaczynski was in charge of the ciphers, Fred Manalli wrote the letters and then there was the murderer and maybe a person or two pulling the strings. A person/people with power but hated society and used Kaczynski and co. to do some dirty work.

[AK Wilks]

ophion - I am not much inclined to group theories, though I do not dismiss them. But I agree the total package on Ted is damning - the letters to the SF Chronicle demanding to be on the front page, the codes and ciphers, the crossed lines in a circle, the bomb threats - all shared elements of TK and Z. The up close killing remains the stumbling block for many, but Ted did shoot a worker at a mine site with a rifle, and built a wood pistol for use as a "homicide weapon".

how many "hoods" can we place with certainty with any other POI..i dunno but it (hood) just gives me the willy's

Exactly! It is amazing to me that he had a very Z like hand made hood, and we know that Z had a hand made hood.




LINDA:

This does give you a few chills thinking how much this home-made hood reminds of you of another... Wonder what Ted used this for... It looks quite old to me. Stitching around the eyes is interesting. Hand stitches maybe? How about the lining...wonder what that's made of.

LUKE 68:

What the hell would a distance killer like the Unabomber, need a hood like that for? It's not like he would have used it to hunt his favourite snowshoe rabbits.

Linda and Luke, I agree! I can think of NO USE for this hood for Ted as the Unabomber or as a hunter. Makes no sense.

Azazel, it does look flat on top!

Ricardo, I saw this listed in the FBI inventory 2 years ago, but this is the first time the image has been released to the public. The inventory also lists a BLACK "face mask" but says it is similar to a "Ski Mask", thus it would be like a hood as in it covers the whole head. No image on that one yet, that I have seen.

And yes the iconic sketch image of Ted in glasses and sweatshirt hoodie conjures up images of the Zodiac at Lake Berryessa, with his dark glasses and hood, doesn't it?

The existence of the hood found in Kaczynski's cabin shows that Ted, like Zodiac, wanted and could make a decent hood.

There is also a BLACK HOOD reported as found in Ted's cabin, but as yet no image I have seen.

NOW...

I am going to engage in a little speculation here, just exploration and asking a question.

Looking at the pictures of Zodiac in costume, it appears the hood has a box shape, like there might be a welding mask type structure. It also appears the hood is connected to the dickey that comes over the chest. So that it is one unit. It also appears in the police drawing that the hood has RECTANGULAR EYE SLITS.

Is it POSSIBLE that he may have wanted to wear a partial face mask hood UNDERNEATH the bulky hood-dickey structure? Perhaps in case it got knocked off during a struggle, so his face would still be partially covered?

Because it does look like the rectangular eye slits on the Kaczynski hood line up quite well with the Zodiac hood.

And they are both flat on top.

This item is being sold to the public. If there is even a 1% chance this could be something Zodiac wore, I wish it could be tested for DNA. With the bloody scene at Lake Berryessa, when Zodiac removed his hood with his hands, tiny microscopic specks of blood from the victims could have got on the hood.

[snooter]

FBI prolly tested it (hood and that may be too much credit I am giving to the fbi since they seem to fumble the ball) and if they did we shall more than likely never know...did TK ever have a girlfriend??..if so I wonder what his "type" was..may be CJB was that girl that turned him "on" and TK with whatever was in his mind had to dispose of her and those feelings...I totally agree hartnell should be shown the hood..if that has not been done well shame on the fbi..another thing i would do is be talking to TK daily as it appears he may have many characteristics of the unknown Z..what could it hurt...ramblings off-god speed

[capricorn]

Was there an address book found in the cabin and if so, was everyone in it investigated?

[Darla Jones]

Does anyone know who purchased these items? The DNA is on these right now. As a private collector, who legally purchased the item from the auction, they have every right to do a DNA test on it. The inside of the mask near the nose hole would most likely have one cell, which is all they would need.

[capricorn]

Is Ted allowed visitors? Maybe Darla would be allowed to interview him!!!

Another thought....is he allowed mail? I'd certainly think so and am sure one of the experts here could write him a letter and become pen pals. He must be very lonely and might enjoy communication. It would be most interesting to know his thoughts today on the topics he wrote about so many years ago.

I wonder if he has access to computers and the Internet and in general, how he spends his time.

He might even enjoy becoming a member here and perhaps could help shed some light on Z!

Maybe Morf could write to him and invite him to share his thoughts with us!

[AK Wilks]

FBI prolly tested it (hood and that may be too much credit I am giving to the fbi since they seem to fumble the ball) and if they did we shall more than likely never know...did TK ever have a girlfriend??..if so I wonder what his "type" was..may be CJB was that girl that turned him "on" and TK with whatever was in his mind had to dispose of her and those feelings...I totally agree hartnell should be shown the hood..if that has not been done well shame on the fbi..another thing i would do is be talking to TK daily as it appears he may have many characteristics of the unknown Z..what could it hurt...ramblings off-god speed

Ted K never really had a girlfriend, so I don't what his type is or if he had a type.

[AK Wilks]

Does anyone know who purchased these items? The DNA is on these right now. As a private collector, who legally purchased the item from the auction, they have every right to do a DNA test on it. The inside of the mask near the nose hole would most likely have one cell, which is all they would need.

The problem is once it goes into the hands of a private collector, the evidence chain of custody is broken. So it probably could not be used in court, unless the collector followed strict protocols and they were able to say the blood or skin cells or sweat was 40 years old and we got x result.

But generally speaking if evidence leaves state custody it is no longer admissible.

I heard rumors that a publishing company bought all of Ted's diaries, journals and letters at the auction, with intent to release a book, but I have heard nothing since.

[vasa croe]

Maybe someone should write him and ask what the purpose of that hood was....It was obviously handmade for a purpose. I lived in MT and watched his transport come through town when he was caught. It was really cold out there often, so my thought is it could have been just for keeping his face warm if he was caught out in the weather at night at some point....I know there were PLENTY of times I wore a mask out there when it was cold.