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Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:43 pm
by Darla Jones
In the very first EAR attack the hood was described as having "two eye holes and a seam down the front". That sounds homemade to me.

From ONS Proboards:
"Attack #1 - June 18, 1976 in Rancho Cordova (95670), approximately 4:00 am.
Victim - "Carey Frank" - 23 years old
Physical Description:
White Male - 20-25 years old
About 5'9"
Rapist wasn't a large man; perhaps 165 lbs.
Muscular legs with dark hair on them
Very small penis
*Eye color - Hazel; Hair - Brown

Clothing & Accessories Description:
Half-naked
Dark T-shirt
Dirty white or gray mask with two eye holes and a seam down the front
Gloves
Knife

*Victim heard low, whispered voices in another room - including "I told you to shut up!" in a louder whisper.

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:37 am
by Darla Jones
[quote="AK Wilks"]Thanks for posting the psych report and the other information. As Mr. Spock would say, "fascinating".


Excitement's Crave
All those mortal's surviving birth
Upon facing maturity,
Take inventory of their worth
To prevailing society.

Choosing values becomes a task;
Oneself must seek satisfaction.
The selected route will unmask
Character when plans take action

Accepting some work to perform
At fixed pay, but promise for more,
Is a recognized social norm,
As is decorum, seeking lore.

Achieving while others lifting
Should be cause for deserving fame.
Leisure tempts excitement seeking,
What's right and expected seems tame.

"Jessie James" has been seen by all,
And "Son of Sam" has an author.
Others now feel temptations call.
Sacramento should make an offer.

To make a movie of my life
That will pay for my planned exile.
Just now I'd like to add the wife
Of a Mafia lord to my file.

Your East Area Rapist
And deserving pest
See you in the press or on T.V.

I saved these images from AK sometime last year. (Do you remember where you got the screen shot from?) I noticed that in EC that, more than once, the typist missed a letter, or the key did not strike all the way. That has happened in this note from Zodiac as well. Also, in both notes where the missing letter is, EAR goes to the trouble to fill it in by hand. So does Zodiac.

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Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:47 pm
by capricorn
Very interesting! The person who has this typewriter should examine all the keys to see if any match up with the ones that are seemingly defective.

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:16 pm
by The411
AK,

I enjoy your posts immensely as you don't restrict your out of the box thinking and you avoid assuming that a MO or signature can't be altered.

What do we know about Kazinski's athletic prowess? For Ear ONS this appears to be something of value as it has been suggested that EAR ONS was able to move quite well specifically speaking he had appeared to have better than average athletic ability.

The other question is the widow's peak. Kazcinski has one and as one ages it tends to become less pronounced.
Was recognized to have a widow's peak?

Another issue would be the link to Santa Barbara, Goleta, Sacramento and Visalia.
Based on the EAR crimes the perp would have to have fairly detailed knowledge of Sacramento and the Santa Barbara areas.

I know I'm a bit all over the map here but I'm just streaming a few thoughts.

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:17 pm
by capricorn
The typewriter would prove critical to solving these imo if it could be located! The keys could be examined forensically to determine if these letters were typed on it.

Typing was much more difficult in those days. Most students learned to type on manual typewriters and used carbon paper to make copies. Typos were a real pain to correct, especially before "whiteout" was invented.

The keys on older machines would often stick or otherwise not strike the platen properly.

From what I see here, I think defective keys were responsible or dirty keys and/or typos/all of the above.

I often corrected things by writing in or over a typed letter after having to erase a typo, especially if carbon paper was being used as it was almost impossible to make a perfect correction as the sheets of paper would not line up exactly the same way after erasures or removal and re-insertion of the sheets had been made.

Writing in and over typed letters was pretty common, especially for informal documents.

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:54 pm
by AK Wilks
The411 wrote:AK,

I enjoy your posts immensely as you don't restrict your out of the box thinking and you avoid assuming that a MO or signature can't be altered.

What do we know about Kazinski's athletic prowess? For Ear ONS this appears to be something of value as it has been suggested that EAR ONS was able to move quite well specifically speaking he had appeared to have better than average athletic ability.

The other question is the widow's peak. Kazcinski has one and as one ages it tends to become less pronounced.
Was recognized to have a widow's peak?

Another issue would be the link to Santa Barbara, Goleta, Sacramento and Visalia.
Based on the EAR crimes the perp would have to have fairly detailed knowledge of Sacramento and the Santa Barbara areas.

I know I'm a bit all over the map here but I'm just streaming a few thoughts.


Thanks very much for the compliment! I appreciate it. I try to keep an open mind on serial killers. CCCSD Crime Lab Chief Paul Holes once told me that often profilers get "too rigid" in their profiles and said that may be why some dismiss Ted the bomber as Zodiac the up close and personal killer. He said the most important thing is a desire to kill strangers and write to the media about it, which both Ted and Z shared. Also, Z varied his MO. Probably kills a single woman (bates, then attacks three male-female couples, then kills a lone male, then perhaps attacks lone females (Johns, Lass, Hakari, etc), then makes sniper threats, then makes terroristic bomb threats against a whole city. Ted mainly killed by bombs yes, but he also shot a man at a mine with a rifle, shot, stabbed and poisoned dogs, did armed burglaries and vandalized trucks.

Ted was very athletic and fit, he had abody like a runner or swimmer, which is what was said about EAR/ONS. Ted survived for weeks in the wild, hiking and hunting, as EAR/ONS was thought to do.

I think Ted had a small widows peak, and in general he matches very well the sketches of the VR and Maggiore Killer, who were probably the same, and probably became EAR/ONS.

Ted knew Sacramento very well. The FBI thought the Unabomber lived in Sacramento or SF. Ted stayed at a hotel in Sacramento and the clerks knew him well. He went to a Sacramento bookstore so often they nicknamed him Einstein for his messy hair and intellectual interests. If the Zodiac started as the Santa Barbara killer in 63, that is a direct tie to that area around Goleta.

Below are sketches of the 1963 Santa Barbara beach murders suspect "Sandy" and pictures of the young Ted Kaczynski, followed by pictures of Ted Kaczynski and suspect sketches in the Zodiac and EAR/ONS cases.
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Comparison of VR sketch and two pics of Ted Kaczynski 1970's.
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Comparison of side view of VR sketch and side view of Ted Kaczynski

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Cap I think you are right about the typewriter let me put my thinking cap on about the problem.

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:34 pm
by The411
AK,

We know that Kaczynski graduated from Harvard in 1962 and he enrolled at Michigan thereafter (What exact period was he at U of M?) . We also know he was at UC Berkeley in 1967.

What would be Kaczynski's reason to be in Santa Barbara to Santa Barbara in 1963 for Domingos and Edwards?

The Domingos/Edwards double murder occurred on 6/4/63 and the Michigan classes ended on May 25 but exams were from 5/27/63 to 6/6/63. Was Ted K at U of M in the 1962-1963 school year? Did he take 2nd semester exams in 1963? Certainly possible for him to finish before 6/6/14 but even still there wouldn't be much time for him to get to Santa Barbara, know enough to get around and find remote spots, especially if he had never been there before. Certainly a grad schedule could be different.

http://books.google.com/books?id=i5WfAA ... 63&f=false

As for Sacramento we see two of his Unabomber bombings (1985 and 1995) including his last one that took place in Sacramento. his shows ties to the area but again when and how does he have ties to Sacramento prior to his first bombing?

There are reasonable gaps between EAR ONS and the dates his bombs went off so one doesn't rule out there other. However it does beg the question of how he got around to those sites (Illinois in May of 1978 and 79 and California in June of 1978 and 79).

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:52 pm
by AK Wilks
No ties to SB that we know of and no evidence to show he was or was not there. But as you say it was summer vacation and Ted sometimes skipped some or most classes but then turned in papers that got him an A and won awards.

Ted owned cars including a white Pontiac and a 50's era pickup truck which matches EAR. He also borrowed family cars, could have rented cars and he frequently used buses and also hiked great distances and lived and slept in the woods including North Cal woods.

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:39 pm
by AK Wilks
Bumped for EndOfTheWorld.

Re: EAR/ONS/GSK Case Compared to Zodiac and TK

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:33 am
by EndOfTheWorld
No, speaking for myself I can't see it. TK wasn't into rape or ransacking, that we know of. After he bought the shack in Montana, he was either there most of the time or he wasn't. That should be ascertainable. He knew people in Montana, like the librarian and some neighbors. If he was EAR he was living in CA, except for the summers. Committing 50 rapes is a lot different than just taking a few trips to mail stuff. It's not known who wrote "Excitement's Crave".